As Mykal said:
https://audiosex.pro/threads/what-happened-to-audioutopia.33023/#post-303636

 

You seem reasonable, so i will try and make it clear yet once more (you see this has been discussed & answered many times in the past).
How would you feel if you offered me for free something that i normally have to buy and i went on and sold it ? Let's say it's ok, you gave it to me it's mine now so i sell it. Thing is, next time around you'd probably give me the finger instead of anything, since my greed was more than my appreciation. And most likely you would agree that would be the normal reaction of any person. Despite this example r2r has been providing restlessly for the people in need and unfortuantely the people with greed too.
Lemme break it down:
Don't be naive that you will donate money to r2r or any other scene group. Wanna donate, become a supplier, if you can. Do not think for a second, scene groups make money from releases. Scene is pure skill competition and independent from any kind of profit. Leeching pirate soft doesn't make anyone part of the scene, so don't think any outsider will dictate what any scene group will or won't write. It's their nfo. Finally, do not confuse the people who monetize on pirate soft with the people who actually reversed the code. The first are lame simpletons the latter are our modern day RobinHoods with whatever negative and positive this may mean.
So, you don't like reading nfos ? Go buy your softies, i do.
Cheers

 

Wrong! They are separate but do share knowledge.It's been that way since day 1 as can be seen in this old NFO https://audiop2p.com/scnview.php?release=23944. I have said this before so why certain simply do not understand that the current Audio scene is larger than just 1 group is beyond me. When I log in to the IRC ,I see names from many groups. All willing to help each other. It's the only decent thing I see actually going on when it comes to Audio Warez. Whats going on in the various forums is disgusting

 

That is really positive yes

 

lol , are you one of the 8-10 people , which Mykal means ? or how do you will know if there will be less releases , for whatever reason ? how do you will know if big suppliers or people retiring ?

any proof for your statement ?

 

I read and understand what Mikal says. He knows... And he explained very clearly.

 

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so you just say what your hear from other peoples but you dont know exactly whats behind somewhere else . also just imho Mykal says too much about their internal things which again imho nobody needs to know . no wonder why there are so much conspiracy theory arround . and i dont think its also good for their safety too .

 

Now I know most leechers aren't gonna like my 2 cents(Especially Windoze Guys)...but,this whole topic is Stupid. I tire of hearing how emotional R2R is! They cry, they moan, they cry. Let's move on.

There are way too many dynamics here for anyone to be correct (just opinions) and personally they (R2R) absolutely do nothing for me anymore. Didn't do much b4. Now hexwars...they did a few things. I have always brought what I wanted. If couldn't afford it I didn't. and yes some people can and some people not as much. I'm sure there are people here way better off than me and some less. Such is life. And,yes, it was nice to check out things to see if I liked it or not but, times have changed and I don't do that much anymore and most Dev's give you a demo now anyways. And now that hexwars have been long gone, all I see is the well is dry for mac apps and windoze guys kissing R2R's butt everytime they cry foul, afraid that they might just go too. And if they do so what! It won't stop Time.

Enough already. It is life's cycle. All things must change! So why have a topic just about how R2R feels? Are they your gods? Will life cease
to exist for you? Have you not been given enough to "test" already for a lifetime? Your greed tethers you to R2R. You like living in the Matrix?

Better yet, don't answer those questions...Just go make some Music with what you have b4 you get 2 Old 2!!

 

Well, you truncated my complete comment when quoting it. My comment was:

So yes he has probably already told too much, specially given that unfortunately some are staying in their superstition state of mind..
Yes I am confident with Mikal , but I cant say why or we will fall in the same as prior sentence...

In this thread, all that could be said have been said, there is enough material for members to get their own conclusions.

 

He knows, every single staff member and the owner know ,especially the owner, This forum and the sister site depend on that as far as you thinking I say too much ..well that may be true but then again not saying anything is exactly why there are so many conspiracy theories to begin with. And as far as safety is concerned .... The 1st step would not allow stupid fucking threads like these to be posted on an open public forum. I do not start these things ,I only respond to the nonsense in hopes that maybe someone can actually read between the lines and respect it all instead of being one of those that speculate and fuel the Bullshit

 

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how you will exactly know that i speculate ? it is real better to say nothing on public forums about their internal structure and things , or do you think the internet has becomes real safety ?

 

How would I know that you speculated ,easy, you typed and posted anyways..I think it's best to treat it like the Movie "Fight Club" Simply don't talk about it at all and YES you did speculate that I say too much and speculated that there may be safety concerns, TBH The best thing is not to have such threads allowed to begin with .I am not here to stir the pot but will do all I can to make sure the scum does not float to the top. The "Internal Structure" is something I had a very big part creating. I will not allow all of the years I have invested to it be brought down by some random guys from some random site , so yeah I will say what ever I want in order to correct the Bullshit that gets spread around This is not a dig at you @TinTin at all. I was responding to what you posted but tried to put it in a broader picture. so if you took what I said personally .I am sorry. TBH I hate getting e-mails about these threads,I hate that @SAiNT can only say to certain threads like these ..Well lets ask Mykal ,I did not ask for any of this. I have so much better things I could be doing instead of having to defend my friends, when due to language problems they can't speak up for themselves in the way they want, but then again wtf would that do? When they do speak up in the NFO's , Threads like this one are created and the bullshit starts all over again

 

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Please don't let this thread become more important than it is. ...
Just read my previous message again and try to get my point, you obviously haven't understood.

I appreciate all kind of supply any scene group did, this has nothing to do with my previous post, you got it wrong.
I don't campaign for any monetizers, I just want to point out something different and your answer underlined my point.

Why do they complain about others to share publically shared stuff again? Apparently they claim to avoid this to ensure the first releasers are the only releasers, so are the first public releases ethical? Is that a different matter? Thinking outside the box, according to their appeal, no.
Accordingly nothing should be available for public, but just behind the scenes.

To sum it up: Any further shares are undesired, despite the very first. ...
Well, this can only have one reason everybody can clearly understand. In the end it's all about money, that's what I said. ...

??? ...

 

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Doesn't always work, but I trust common sense before twisted theories.

 

quote audioutopia

 

Common symptoms include false beliefs, unclear or confused thinking, hearing voices that others do not, reduced social engagement and emotional expression, and a lack of motivation..

@SAiNT I respectfully request this thread to b celebrated

 

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@SAiNT....I respectfully request this thread be closed.

 

Whats with the picture dropping?