Spectrasonics Software Updates

Discussion in 'Software' started by TonyG, Apr 15, 2018.

  1. Nick12

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    Patching means you have to do the whole authorization process again, isn't it? I don't know, but that always takes ages for me. I still know that I was doing that for like 20-30 minutes, because Omnisphere was always crashing. So I am a little bit scared, haha. Altough, it was all worth it and I am also just like do not whine or otherwise buy it. Simple as that. But yeah Omnisphere and everything works fine now and I am still thinking to buy it this year to support Spectrasonics. I have tested it many times and I love it! And also for the fact that they do not work with Ilok or anything.

    I know updates are always worth it and good to do in general, but taking into consideration what I said do you think the update is worth it for now?

    And also thank you Tony for letting us know and for your time :)
     
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  3. TonyG

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    Hi @Nick12 , I look at this update in a logical way. Spectrasonics is NOT charging us legit users for it. Accordingly, if Spectrasonics did not think it was necessary they would not have spent time nor resources on it. The update to Keyscape may not be worth it to a non-legit user for the simple reason that after the update Keyscape would only work inside Omnisphere. You would not be able to use it as stand alone or plugin...for now.
     
  4. Nick12

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    @tonyg0499

    Thank you for getting back!

    Well, at first glance that doesn't really matter for me if it won't work anymore as standalone. I mean I am using it inside Omnisphere right now aswell. Same for Trilian. I don't know, but I actually like it if it's all in one. Why do some people prefer it as standalone version by the way?

    Anyway, if Keyscape only works inside Omnisphere and not anymore as standalone, then you only have to patch Omnisphere, right?

    Also according to my own experience when I installed the previous updates in the past for example, I only had to patch Omnisphere and Keyscape. I didn't have to patch Trilian. It just loaded up inside Omnisphere immediately. Yep, I also updated it. So now it looks like only Omnisphere have to be patched?

    Yeah, that's indeed true. I will just do it! Before I start, is it maybe possible to have two different versions? So if it's not working I always can switch back, just in case?
     
  5. TonyG

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    Trillian will install without patching and it does work in stand alone and as a separate plugin. Nothing will go wrong. Do it. If it fails PM me and I will walk you through it.
     
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  6. TonyG

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    If you try to keep both, which I never tried, have all .dlls from your current version renamed and zipped. You can always unzip the folder. However, this update does make other changes within the app so it is not as simple as a .dll swap. Maybe that is the reason why there is no symlink of Spectrasonics. The best overall method is to clone your OS hard drive, which is something you should do regardless, and that way if anything goes wrong you can reverse all those changes.
     
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  7. Nick12

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    @tonyg0499

    Thank you again!

    Alright. So I have installed all these new updates and it went very well actually. It looks like everything is fine and up to date, except the patches from Trilian? Is there a new update of the patches from Trilian that maybe came out today? When I installed everything and I took a look at Omnisphere it was saying that I am up to date. Really a few minutes later and Omnisphere is telling me updates are available.

    I have this now currently:

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  8. TonyG

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    @Nick12 I will send you the update in a few minutes. Do you have the same email?

    What Omnisphere is telling you is that you need to update. lol
     
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  9. Nick12

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    @TonyG

    Oh, amazing! Yep, I have exactly the same. You may do it when it suits you. Take your time :)
     
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    thanks man :wink::wink:
     
  11. Nick12

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    Oh, that's weird. I installed it and it still says it have to be updated? Not sure why? Anyway, thanks for your e-mail :)
     
  12. TonyG

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    @Nick12 Did you install the one I sent you?
     
  13. Nick12

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    Yeah, but never mind. I likely installed it wrong. I think I installed it with the standard settings and that's in your main drive. I believe in the Spectrasonics folder that's in your program data folder. That's actually not where my STEAM folder is. So the next time I selected my STEAM folder and now it's fine as you can see here:

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    Altough, I saw that I have two STEAM folders now in my main drive and these are both in the program data folder too.

    One is a shortcut. Probably to my STEAM folder that's on my second hard drive. So I quess I shouldn't touch that one. Also because of the fact that Keyscape, Omnisphere and Trilian are in here.

    The other one seems like a normal STEAM folder aswell, but only Trilian is in here. So I think that makes sense why I lost suddenly around 30GB after I was trying to install a update only. I can remove that one, isn't it?
     
  14. TonyG

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    You should only have ONE STEAM and ONE SAGE folder within your Spectrasonics folder. That is one of the beauties of Spectrasonics. Once it is properly installed, subsequent updates go to their respective locations. If your STEAM folder is on a different drive,inside your Program Data/Spectrasonics folder you only have the .dll, the .DAT, the applications .Exe, the plug-ins folder and the shortcut to the STEAM folder.If you have 2 STEAM just merged the one from C: with your external one and keep the newer files.

    Update: Thinking about he merging. Look at the dates on the files. You dont want to downgrade the contents of the STEAM folder. If the ones in your C: drive are older just delete it. And remember that Omnisphere only is directed to ONE STEAM folder, not to 2 of them. You can always disconnect external drive and if Omnisphere or Trilian or Keyscape can not find the STEAM folder the one in C: is useless.
     
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  15. Nick12

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    @TonyG

    I have done what you have told me and now everything is fine. Your suggestion about looking at the date was a good one! The second STEAM folder was made on the same day when I installed these updates. So I knew and I was more confident that it's safe to remove this one.

    By the way is it true that when you delete something it can take some time before you actually have your space back or before it's confirmed by your PC? In my case it took 1-2 days. Anyway, everything works, I am up to date and I have my 30GB back. Thank you Tony! :)
     
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    Does anyone has checked the loading times (Windows) after updating Omnisphere? Its now faster, or is it just subjective feeling?
     
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    Takes much longer to load for some reason when i open in fl studio:(
     
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  18. TonyG

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    Faster! On both the legit as well as the cracked one.
     
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    Very strange, before the update it used to load in 4-5 seconds on my ssd. Now its taking at least 15seconds!

    Edit: I got it to load back to normal speed after deleting the original vst .dll and reinstalling the software update:)
     
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  20. TonyG

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    You should have done that from the get go. Guys this is not rocket science. If it takes 4 seconds for some of us and yours is taking 3 times as much try to tweak your system and program. Also, don't expect Ferrari speed if you are driving a Ford Pinto.
     
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