Hello audiosex community
A mixing engineer says this mix is right....
...i say there is always space for improvement...
...so do any of the elements of the track according to your taste & mixing knowledge need rebalancing ?
if you have any suggestions please also explain why.
Thank you in advance.

here is Aura :

 

Sometimes, the question is not whether the mix is right or marvelous. It's also about the sound source. The production. The idea, the story of the song itself and how well it's conveyed through its production elements.

About the song in the video, it's kinda static with a stingy super-high bell sound that seems to not serve much purpose in the "story" of the song itself rather than poking out in a harshly distinctive way, then the constant plucks around 3:16... it just doesn't seem to illustrate a well composed idea. When the song reached the end, i thought i didn't even listen to it in the first place. I remembered pretty much nothing.

You see, that's the magic of a well written song. I'm not saying it needs lyrics to be memorable. It just has to be well illustrated BASED on a story from an intended idea with intended elements in the production and arrangement, that all makes sense, not just being on the playback just cause they sound good on their own..

I hope you don't find my post hostile, i have big respect for your production efforts and heart. I'm trying to be constructive and objective. Always envision the whole song, its story and the emotions it's supposed to deliver, in your mind, waaaay before you even touch the keyboard, guitar or your computer's mouse. This will give you great power and musical capability that will ultimately end up as memorable and more listeners will be able to relate to it.

Evorax

 

no i didn't thanks

 

First of all, I adore that track. Now down to pulling it apart (I'm kidding :P)

I do have one criticism though, and that is there doesn't appear to be enough going on in the low end for me!


I've played it back again and I think I may have worked out what is wrong. You know how a kick and bass are supposed to complement each other as two pieces of a jigsaw fitting together? Well for me personally, I don't think the Kick and the Bass talk to each other.

 

@evora, even tough I am an admirer of @Xyfsp work, I must agree with what you said about the sound source, production and arrangement. More so on an instrumental piece over 5 minutes long. I give kudos to @Xyfsp for taking your constructive criticism positively. To give answer to his question, leaving aside the structure and sound selection, it is my opinion that the overall mix has a lot of room for improvement_in a big way. The song does not breath,it sounds too boxy. I want more definition between the bass and low mids. I want better instrument placement. I want less harshness. The mid highs and highs require a lot of treatment in the mix to get it to sound right. Tell the mixing engineer that the mix does not sound right.

 

I'd REALLY love to have a go at mixing this!


Mark, have a look on You Tube (Your video) and r/click on 'stats for nerds'
The Volume/ Normalised line should read :-

100/100 (Content loudness = + or - 1.0) : that mix is showing as 100/78 2.2

It's all completely wrong!

 

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Me personally,2 label owners & a mastering engineer are also reading this thread
all your thoughts are really interesting &
thank you all for your input.i really appreciate it
@Sylenth.Will.Fall yes for the mixing,but you will need to give me some times ,i have to finish some things first

 

Of course!

Record Companies usually like to master tracks for You Tube at +4 meaning 100/100 (4.0)

 

^^^^^^^^
update time friends
......so i fired the mixing engineer ( )

also i hope this time it tells a story too .....if not it is ok....i had fun creating it :

^ my good friend if you want to mix version (1) of it send me a pm please, when you have time, thanks

 

PM sent, but I feel bad about the guy you fired

And yes, that was me who gave ya a TU on you tube :P

 

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I'm walkin' like an Egyptian here

Nice simple and bouncy............the tracks on the warm side which is fine if you want it that way, if you wanted it a little less warm maybe have a look at a gentle little cut in the 200 - 500 area, your call moosh.

 

Thank you @Seedz ,i really appreciate it
what about the second version ?
Thank you for your time

 

Ah, in the second version the low end from 100-200Hz is better now (would have been one of my "complaints" about the first one).
The oboe in the beginning is now a bit too low, the open hh is better (had been my second "complaint") and I don't miss that ultra high (and nasty triangle/bell sound, which would have been my third "complaint")

 

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First, thank you for any and all info here.. and @Xyfsp for the nice music!

I know others will understand.. but for dummies - can you elaborate just a tad. What do you mean by +4? I thought that if the third number (content loudness) is positive, the "Normalized" value is always <100%. And, how do you target 100%/100%, 0dB..
Tnx (and I promise I won't master my music.. lol)

 

Ahh yes.. that I'm sorry to say was a typo. it was meant to ba a 'minus 4' (I have fired my typist since this morning- Mark will appreciate that one:P)

As for targeting the 100%/100% (0 <<0 is neigh on impossible, so aim to be within -1db or better)

Take Waves Loudness Meter (Or equivalent)

Select The Momentary Scale as LUFS 18
Change 'short max' to -12.1
Target to -14

Now place it at the end of your mastering chain, and run the mastered content. You'll see below The Short Term and the Long Term windows


Short term should hit around -14 but it doesn't matter if it's above or below too much

The long term window covers the whole of your mix and should finish no more than + or- .5 outside of -14DB

As long as you are within that range, you'll get a green tick, and voila'

 

the mix is about right, the "music" is not.

 

Nice track