Thanks alot!

 

Do you know distros without Windows updates?

 

You are welcome mate.
May i ask what would be the point for a latest Win7 distro if it doesn't include all the updates? It would omit significant tech updates like NVMe support, UEFI boot from USB etc.
Anyway though for a dist with SP1 but no further updates just use vanilla Win7 SP1 from PB, like Windows 7 Ultimate with SP1 X64 Genuine ISO Untouched
Cheers

 

I wonder if this version contains USB 3.0 drivers? It doesn't say on the website where I looked. It seems nice. I use TeamOS versions lately, but only March version has USB 3.0 drivers so it can be more easily installed on newer PCs and I'm just trying to find out if it also contains meltdown and spectre patches. Hope not.

 

@alex921 What is it you're disagreeing with in my post?
That I didn't get a torrent of the self activated version, which I easily and successfully customised as I wrote, or that that I don't have any issues whatsoever running my music apps?

Let me know, I'm intrigued by your negative rep.

 

Well, most of their updates are useless, and brings you closer to having shit on your pc you actually do not want. I like to be in control over what gets updated, for example their 'montly quality rollups' doesn't make sense for me,as I like to update my virus scanner when ever I want too. Who knows what else gets installed along with those montly security check ups and other updates they provide. I guess you're right about the updates for the hardwarde department, but they are probably downloadable?

I know it's extemely frustrating usb 3.0 doesnt seem too work on windows 7. My laptop has 2 usb 3.0 ports, neither of them won't work. If I uninstall the usb 3.0 drivers, I get a BSOD. , here is a link of guy patching the image with usb 3.0 drivers, I haven't tried it yet, but I will in the future. https://community.spiceworks.com/ho...drive-to-install-windows-using-a-usb-3-0-port
Intel themself provide a way too patch the image aswell, through their 'Windows 7 USB 3.0 Creator Utility'. Also came across a program called Windows NTLite, which is payware and haven't tried yet, it let's you modify the image plus updates that come pre-installed with windows.

It's not that simple as you stated, windows 10 doesn't give you the control I want over my system. The amount of tweaks you need make is beyond me. And still after all those tweaks, it produces logs which are inaccessible. https://www.privacytools.io/ press control + f, and type windows 10.

 

i did new fresh win 7 on desktop....i will do no updates and srrvice pack and shit...
redis x64 i installed...
i will see how it runs without updates...have good feeling..
i also been very fast in set up of win7....many services are did turn off..no updates..no srvice center...

for what do i need microsoft support for win 7 ??..new spyware updates ? enlighten me lol...

 

no serious...are there specific updates i should install manual?

is there easy way to get usb3 to workon win7?

 

Did anyone had freeze/hang problems with win10? Often after 20/30 minutes installing programs/plugins this happens and i can't do anything anymore but reset. Occasionally ctrl+alt+del/alt+tab is working. Oh forgot my mouse is still responsive if it occurs. Very weird problem..

 

my guess is that, plenty device manufacturers are lazy c*nts, getting bribed by MS to make best drivers for whatever OS MS wishes,
it's no secret graphics cards are getting retarded this way, and similarly plenty audio interfaces have no more than 1 driver which fully works without problems on specific OS build, just to name a few, Presonus, Focusrite, M-Audio.....
on a side note, just take a look at UAD-2 Satellite, thunderbolt version is compatible with windows+mac, but usb 3.0 is windows-only exclusive, what a f*ckery behaviour of UAD

 

I'm guessing the bribe is handed over when devs try to decide which OS to write drivers for -- the current one, or the one that's no longer supported.

 

it's not a bribe in a way most people imagine it,
let's say you're developing for a certain platform, you need hardware and software support, telemetry data, bugtesting injectors, test user base etc... this all is not free, so if let's say Microsoft provides certain Windows 10 optimized tools and data collectors for free, they may demand you as a developer to favor their desired platform and so on

 

Sure, M$ & hardware manufacturers depend on each other; makes sense for MS to focus on an OS they currently market/support, and to give devs coding for it perks/priority. Just common sense, nothing shady about it.

 

Windows actively supports Windows 7 and they still sell it? As a matter of fact this chart says Windows makes the most revenue from Windows 7. http://goo.gl/Pk7YdC . A simple google search will reveal that most users worldwide use Windows 7 as their OS, instead of Win 10.

It´s just plain idiocracy that companies like Presonus, Focusrite, M-Audio drivers tend to work better on Windows 10. All they want is to see you upgrade, its just a marketive move to provide a free windows 10 upgrade, which only they benefit from.

 

When I think about it, it is true that if you don't use Internet on your W7, you don't need all the security and other updates. It's probably for the best, even. Various patches usually just make the OS' performance worse.

But some of the important updates for Windows 7 that some programs and drivers will nag you about [won't install] are:
Windows 7 Platform Update: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us...-windows-7-sp1-and-windows-server-2008-r2-sp1
SHA-2 Code Signing Support: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us...ry-availability-of-sha-2-code-signing-support

For example, I couldn't use the latest TC Electronic driver with my last W7 lite install and for some reason the SHA-2 update wouldn't install, either. So I had to re-install the whole OS to be able to use the last freaking TC driver... So I used the TeamOS' latest Windows 7 with all the MS updates up to October 2017 included. This is the first thing to check, after a fresh install, if this SHA-2 update is working or not. It's a tricky update that doesn't work every time, on every PC, with every W7 version.

There's probably nothing worse [except the nuclear war and having a cretin for a president] than having installed the OS, all the programs and all the plugins only to find out you cannot install the driver for your audio interface because an MS update wouldn't install...

Regarding "Windows 7 Platform Update", Cubase 8 wouldn't install without it and the latest "Dot Net" crap: https://www.microsoft.com/en-US/download/details.aspx?id=56116 Or was it Native Instruments? I can't remember... but it's usually the biggest companies like Steinberg, AVID, TC and NI that produce the biggest problems with their installations and install massive loads of unnecessary crap. I've installed Reaper many times, it cannot even compare...

Let's not forget all the different Visual C++ runtimes, too... some plugins still need 2005 and 2008, but it's usually 2010, 2012... and the stupid Steinberg Downloader and Native Access install VC++ rt 2017 on top. It's just the same shit, but different versions of it. Insane. Thanks MS [stuff it!] :lol:

On the newer PCs you will probably have to integrate those USB 3.0 drivers into the W7 installation, so you can use USB mouse and keyboard during the installation: https://gigabytedaily.blogspot.hr/2015/09/having-trouble-installing-windows-7-by.html and https://www.asus.com/us/support/faq/1015837/

Cheers!

 

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It also a good idea to install the DirectX pack
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8109

 

To get a perfect running win 10 is as easy as I wrote in the posts above. No more tweaking required than win 7, though the way to stop updates, defender and firewall are different.
Happy I did it. No worries here. Dual boot system with my music partition offline. Couldn't be better.

 

Some even suggest that the chart above shows a trend.

Sorta. Mainstream support ended in 2015 3 years ago. All support will end in 2 years.

Win10 market share is already above Win7, and the trend is unlikely to reverse. So no, just farsightedness. Win10's the future, that's where the money's at

 

Fearmongering with "it will be outdated in two years" and "50% of other Windows users use it" does absolutely nothing for me and others who use it offline and who use it professionally - don't fiddle with it all the time, just work. Those 50%, are they working with audio? Professionally? Or maybe they just make a bar of tune here and there? W10, or any poorly optimised Windows will do just fine for that.

I could use the W7 version from 2009 and be happy with it. Unless some program needs some MS update to work. The original version is probably the most optimal, actually.

I still use XP also, just because there are very valuable programs that don't work that good with W7. They still work the same as they worked in 2001. Nothing changed because Microsoft released Windows 10. That doesn't automagically make XP programs to stop working.

Whatever you have installed today and works, will still work *the same* in 100 years from now, 1000, or a million. If the hardware survives, of course.

People still use Ataris, Fairlights, MC-XXX Roland sequencers [I'm looking to buy MC-500 or MC-80...], old Akai MPCs, Matrix-12, Prophet-5, MiniMoog... Akai hard disk recorders, ADATs... whatever rocks your boat to make music. PC is the same. It's a *tool*. Well, for me it is.

Then I also have an OS for fun and just fuckin' around whole day if I want to and it's Linux Debian 9. I keep it updated with all the possible newest patches at all times... that's an OS that is a different kind of tool - for Internet and fuckin' around.

Cheers!


No updates necessary... still works as on the day Roland released it.

People should remember that this is an *audio* forum, not "howtogeek" forum...

 

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The above patches are on the desktop after installation of this release ready to install at your discretion