In the same sense as dead languages are studies, yes (Church Latin, anyone?)

As does astrology. Astrology has a pretty advanced and comprehensive theory corpus (a career in food service, anyone?).

Inovation? Smooth jazz was the last noteworthy thing that happened to jazz, and that was back in, what, 1980s (insipid elevator music, anyone?)?

>corpus
>per se
ded language is ded (Jazz, anyone?)

 

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Blorg, what i said in reply #100 also stands for you.
Jazz, as a complete musical corpus composed of theory + techniques, is very much alive.
It lives in the hands of every skilled modern musician (ie: not you).

You're wrong again (being wrong also seems to be a pattern of yours) when you refer to smooth jazz as the "last noteworthy thing" since smooth jazz is widely regarded as a non-innovation to begin with.

Had you mentioned various subgenres of fusion or even neo-bop you would have been more relevant.

But you haven't.

 

I was always thinking musicians are the most broad-minded people on the earth. In spite of the thousands of verbal and visual examples I've posted, it seems Jazzers are the most pertinacious kinds in ignoring everything and attaching to the tested and given up ideas. Stick to them firmly and don't unhand. Good luck!

 

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...are an embarrassment best left forgotten, didn't want to rub it in. Also: happened half a century ago. Half a century, imagine?

Was that even a thing? Did people actually listen to it? willingly? Or was it just some cold-blooded shit you played to a motherfucker before popping a cap in his ass?
Seriously tho, at least actual IRL people listened to Smooth Jazz (I'm not laughing, honest).
& Kenny G. got in the top 10. Less than 40 years ago, even! Yesterday, 'far as jazz goes

 

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So much personal advice that it's to demotivate you to participate. Don't listen and read to all of this and if you really have trouble venturing into this project there are many tutorials on Jazz written by professionals on the sister site.

Or search on Googled: Piano Jazz scales and chords. Just looking the chords will be useful for you.

PianoPig Channel

 

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Oh yeah, let theories embrace you,
Completely efface and disgrace you,
Debase your place and interlace you,
This is what deserve you cockatoo.

 

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Imho Jazz is the only real original artistic/cultural gift America (read: USA) has giving to the rest of the world in the last 100 years and more - period!
I know a lot will disagree and that´s ok but no one will be able to change my opinion!

Funny thing is that The United States as such doesnt seem to have much respect/reverence for this art form, actually invented in The United States, so many of their greatest jazz musicians had to go in exile in Europe for decades..... Jazz is and has always been huge in Europe.

An example:
When Duke Ellington died his son took over. When Mercer Ellinton had to deside where his fathers recordings (especially the never released ones) should be saved for posterity, he didn´t choose The United States but Europe.... and guess why?!?

A country that cannot take care of the most valuable artistic expressions their country can provide have very little cultural understanding of itself and thats a pity.

Myself and jazz:

I love jazz! Especially bebob - modern jazz.

I have this great feeling every time I listen to good jazz music that it doesn´t speak down to me but regard me being a thinking and skilled person - it challenges my intellect on scales, harmonies, melodies, swing, grooves and not least improvisations!

I LOVE JAZZ - especially if it´s GOOD jazz

That´s all.

 

Well, there was that Rock&Roll you folks seemed to enjoy, but why quibble? Europeans have always been into our flotsam & jetsam -- the castoffs of American culture. Always about about a decade or two post freshness date, but still perfectly good. Who can blame them, amirite?

For the same reason our toxic computer scrap used to end up getting "donated" to developing nations?
P.S. thanks for bringing politics & national pride into a jazz thread

 

You should have be a poet.

PS: Search PG Music Jazz Piano Master Class

 

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You must indeed be from USA

 

You know it. On the bleeding edge of teh avant garde. Modal jazz transcended chord structure. Atonal jazz shed the shackles of fixed tuning. Old news, happened more than half a century ago. This is what the next generation of Europeans will be raving about -- Atonal, Free-Time Spoken Word Jazz. Get hip, Daddy-o, don't be no square. Dig the future, dig THIS!

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Yeah baby, that some deep shit all the hep cats are groovin' to
(since humor can't cross national boundaries: plz don't take offense, I'm joking.)

 

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I never follow in anyone's footsteps. Everything for the creation I'm fond of is inside my mind. No matter how much drooped or strong they are. Spending the whole life to learn the bootless chord structures to torture the audiences is not in my concordance. BTW, those courses are nothing except some morale boosters to believe in yourself not Jazz.

 

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Talented people can afford this kind of behavior.

When all you have isn't talent but just an internet connection, you'd be well advised to follow quite a few other footsteps dude. Just sayin.

 

Blorg, this is not a debate.
There are countless of musically groundbreaking alive jazz bands and artists all over the world, whether you like it or not.
Kawasi Washington, Tigran Hamassyan, Snarky Puppy of course, you name it.

They're all genuinely epic musicians, sought after by huge pop brands - Kendrick Lamar, Snoop Dogg, Justin Timberlake and so on, precisely because they play jazz, they're skilled, they're innovating and they're very much alive (as opposed to your deadly cancerous trolling).

 

Typical answer from a guy who don't want to learn to read a score.
You know I have nothing against you. So, give up! Thanks dude

 

Finally someone thanked me! Me too.

 

Every style (including Jazz varieties) of music calls for its related tools, people, attitudes, audiences, knowledge, etc. I'm not a Jazz listener, producer and appreciator. For this reason, no need to follow those gratuitous paths and hoard superfluous sidelights.

 

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@BibouLeNoob @LV4-26 in this channel there are some professional Rap, Hip-Hop, RnB arrangements. They've been done masterfully and technically likely regarding theories and I don't think any Jazzer would be able to do the similar things with this level of staggering skillfulness. They are complicated for those genres but I don't expect you to love them (me too). Without worshiping the ground someone walks on, you can never understand, feel and follow his/her route.

https://www.youtube.com/user/TiNoXBeatz/videos

 

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@foster911 Dude, try to convince yourself to begin with, before trying to convince anyone else.

You're posting amateurish rip-offs of cinematic musics ala Hans Zimmer or Craig Armstrong with some basic hip hop beats on top... what in the motherfing hell ya talking about ?

Besides the fact two posts earlier you were posturing about not following other footsteps, just, what's your goddamn point ?

Why would anyone, especially creative people, would want to do something like that ?

Stay focused foster for fuck's sake ! FO-CU-SED

 

I've convinced myself not to peep through the keyhole when some Jazz affairs going on.

You didn't listen to them not because they're amateurish or professional but because you don't like those types. Maybe you don't respect them at all. I don't like them too.

Jazzers like biblicists think all the music needs have been prescribed previously by Jazz ancestors and don't accept and recognize other experimentations as official forms of art. All I say is Jazz is just a small (very very small) subset of music (stylistically and theoretically). Jazz is not a big umbrella to place other experimentations and styles of music beneath itself. Jazz is nothing more than Jazz.

 

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