Someone made this video - Damn she "borrowed" a lot of the melodic phrases. She must have notice that. I mean every musician knows creep. I would have written 25 world wide hits, if i had used every idea i had and noticed damn it sounds like ....

 

One pop band sues another pop band.

 

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fuck vevo

 

A few years ago (relatively speaking) my friend Babette sued Country Joe MacDonald for ripping off her father's (one if the original founders of Jazz, the amazing trombonist Kid Ory) song, Muskrat Ramble. I even heard Joe MacDonald say that he took it note for note in his great anti-war song, "I Feel Like I'm Fixin' to Die Rag", while hearing him do a radio interview in L.A. She lost the suit and even had to pay his legal fees because the judge ruled that she waited too long to file the suit.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muskrat_Ramble#Royalties_and_rights

 

Thanks, I had read that before. The added value decree of writing lyrics without the consent of the artist is something a bit odd to me. A 50/50 automatic split? What if I am the original artist and wish my melody to be remembered for itself? I guess anyone with the money for a crafty lawyer could do that to any song, say an EDM piece with pro-Nazi lyrics and the artist has no say whatsoever.

 

If I wrote the tune to "Old McDonald Had A Farm," I'd be OK with the lyricist getting 30% of the credit. Not so if the tune was published sans lyrics, as a MIDI piece.

As an artist, you have no say in how your tune gets remembered, with or without a crafty lawyer.
Now your friend's crafty lawyer? The one who, in 2001, sued Country Joe over a song your friend's father (dead since 1973) composed back in 1926? Was he crafty enough to get paid upfront?

 

I guess the crafty lawyer wasn't crafty enough, Joe, was he? And by the way, I understood the judge's ruling to be fair and just, my friendship with the plaintiff notwithstanding!

I feel that I didn't express myself sussinctly. I would hope to have a say in, not so much how it is remembered, more so in how it is associated. If my catchy tune and/or lyric to my song is altered and used by a person or group that goes against my grain and is commercially leveraged for capital gain to raise money or for any other monetary gain, that I have the right to have them cease and desist (spelling?). A comedy song is outside of the bounds of the intent and it is open season to be used for that purpose alone. My idea of funny isn't nazi hate filled propaganda and probably neither is yours. I wouldn't relish ignorant and foolish children to have their parents singing the praises of genocide to my tune so as to pass on their ideas in a palettable and easily digested song to mold the new and coming up at a ralley of bigotry and hate. Who would outside of that graphic demographic?

I too wouldn't mind 30%, but 40 would be better.

 

http://www.showbiz411.com/2018/01/1...-latest-one-exposes-faith-hill-and-tim-mcgraw

oh, is it possible this noddy nebbish's day in the sun is finally drawing to a close as well ?

 

yups, its getting weird.

Musician hit with copyright claims over 10 hours of white noise on YouTube
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-10/white-noise-youtube-copyright-infringement/9314858

 

i think the fact that you can copyright sounds and notes is ridiculous. even more pathetic, lawyers involved...
my 2 pennies

wops, old thread

 

I listened to both versions and must admit that it is pretty obvious that it is the same melody and chord structure.
It's in a different style and interpretation and not sounding the same but very very close to Creep arrangements.
Essentially the melody is the song and that can't be denied..

 

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You can't copyright the middle C, just like you can't copyright the letter "C."
What you can copyright is an ordered set of notes/letters, e.g. a book that you wrote.

 

a book is made by chapters, which are made by paragraphs, which are made by sentences, which are made by words, which are made by letters.
eventually, someone writing a book is going to have an exact same sentence as in another book. especially if everybody starts writing book of the same genres, then the chances of having a similar story or similar archetypes becomes very high.

 

Are you saying that writers should not be able to copyright their work? I mean, musician at least could play out & make ends meet, but I doubt anyone would go to watch a writer write. I guess they could make money washing dishes on the side (many of my friends did ), but I doubt we'd have better books if writing was strictly a hobby/depended on handouts like Patreon.

 

i'm not saying that lol.

i'm saying you should copyright the WHOLE of the WORK, the SUM of the PARTS. not the single parts.
people have always stolen stuff to make up new stuff. let's not discuss more about copyright and similar things because i really don't like the concept in any case, especially when people claiming to be musicians involve lawyers and spend thousands of money for such things.
enough of this
/out

 

It's sorta like that already. No one will sue you for using the letter C, or even an entire sentence (See Spot run!). But if you took a best seller, replaced every instance of "John" with "Bob," and published it as your own, they might. And there's a whole shitton of gray in between -- that's what the courts are (theoretically) for. It really sucked when U2's management went after a nowhere band like Negativeland (the guys were anything but rich, toured in a van), but I'm sure LDR has a perfectly good legal team on retainer, just for such an occasion. All I'm saying is it's not black & white.

 

Lana did "Creep" better than RH did anyway.. they should just shut up and kiss her feet... if she would permit it...

(snowflakes please don't run to your safe space and dial 911 to scream SH, this is consensual foot kissing kthx bai )