Toneboosters Morphit Headphone Correction Question

Discussion in 'Mixing and Mastering' started by Retrolize77, Jan 6, 2018.

  1. Blorg

    Blorg Producer

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    Not sure if what you mean. All speakers/drivers (including earbuds) can reproduce (are physically capable of reproducing) 20 - 20k, it's just a question of linearity. Looks like this:
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    Good frequency response doesn't mean the widest band -- a tweeter can be driven at 20 Hz, and it will make a sound, just not very loud (because tiny cone/dome area & short coil excursion), it's a flat response curve.
     
  2. Amirious

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    Man this isn't math. we don't work with numbers. so many things affects what you get from those little drivers.
    I think you misunderstood what it does. its job is not to replace decent cans with shitty ones. such expectations are unreal. something has to be there to correct it. cheap cans lack quality components needed to produce a richer spectrum.
    but it does make a difference even if you have a DT880, which is known to be very flat and neutral.

    I somewhat agree with @Satai. however, a lot of electronic producers mainly work ITB with no separation between different stages of completing a record. this means they make sound design and mixing decisions while producing the track so having good headphones or monitors influences the outcome of the project.
     
  3. Blorg

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    It's math and basic physics. If there is a difference, it can be measured. Unless you feel sound is (literally) magic.
    Headphones producing a spectrum richer than the signal fed into them are called distorting headphones.
     
  4. Army of Ninjas

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    That's a curve from some audio technica cans (incidentally, the cans I have). Not all headphones or ear buds can produce 20-20000. It should also be noted that to produce flat 20-20k, the response needs to go beyond that range...

    If you don't believe me, I have some ear buds I could send you that bottom out around 60hz lol.
     
  5. tnussb

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    Exactly this. Because this is also basic physics. No matter how hard you try to boost the low end frequencies on too tiny speakers, you won't get a "correct" response (some even bottom out completely as stated by design to prevent harsh distortions).

    Ever wondered why subwoofers are large? ;)
     
  6. Blorg

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    Nope.
    Not where nonlinearity in headphones comes from.
     
  7. Amirious

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    It's seems to me that you're going somewhere else. please read other posts carefully before writing a reply.
    Lets not forget that the OP wants to know how these softwares affect his outcome.

    Army of Ninjas said it best already.
     
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  8. Philby

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    then there are Bose 901 speakers....:)
     
  9. Blorg

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    Huh? This is what you are replying to:
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    If still unclear, I'll spell it out:
    No, software can not always correct for nonlinearities. If it was as simple as applying an EQ curve, there'd be no reason to spend money on real headphones.

    Nonlinearity has nothing to do with speakers/headphones not having anything above 14k, bargain bin trash does. The problem is *response curve*. If fixing it was as simple as software, there'd be no need for elaborate speaker enclosures/placement, fancy cone/dome/diaphragm designs, or treated listening rooms. Just software.

    Now what is it that you disagree with, specifically?
     
  10. Blorg

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    "In audiophile circles Bose is usually a punchline to a joke [author defends Bose here; talks of all the Bose innovation, closing with] All of that said, in general, Bose products do sound like shit." http://noaudiophile.com/Bose_901/
     
  11. Amirious

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    @Blorg please don't mention me anymore. yes I'm mentioning you to ask not to mention me. that's it.
    I don't know why all these Sonarworks topics go in a wrong direction. I don't have time to waste on these arguments anyway.
     
  12. Retrolize77

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    I appreciate the time you n others put into answering questions like mine! Really
     
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