Classic Trance Mix

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  1. R.S

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    On this track I used some classic trance sounds.. Feedback welcome! Thanks! :)
    Tools used:
    Cubase
    Waves
    Gem
    Nugen Audio
    Fabfilter
    Slate Digital
    Nexus
    Stylus RMX
    Alchemy
    Roland D-50
    Korg M1

    EVENT ASP8 monitors
    Mackie 1801HD Sub
     
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  3. Integral

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    Hi man. I'm in trance making for 7 years
    Appreciate that you make trance, specially classic!
    I make trance for 7 years.
    Nice instruments and idea.
    BUT:
    1. BPM seems not enough
    2. Kick doesn't cutting through the mix
    3. Bass is very weak
    4. Percussion is VERY weak (do some layers man!)
    5. Arrangement is very weak
    6. Track weakly mixed, some frequencies in 400-500 Hz i hear just killing the mix.
    7. Mastered so so, dynamics are weak.

    Just my 5 cents and my view.
    You need - more practice. More listening good mixed tracks you love. Good equipment (if you haven't one)
     
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    not really trance to me.
    sounds more like some house- electro- like .. agreed with what integral stated regarding the mix
     
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    Hehe.. Changed the genre to synth-pop :)
     
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    You need EQ. Almost everywhere. Separate bass from kick by cutting frequencies so that they do not overlap.
    Your nexus synths are way too wide too.
    Remember a basic rule. Presets sounds taken separately always sound way wimpier than played alone when you browse thru your list.
    It's the mix that make them glue together, each in its space.
    That's the reason why a lot of your bass, kick...disappear when the synths move in.
    Mixing is like surgery. Cut, cut and cut again till everything is in place.
     
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    I tried to follow some of the advices above and it worked kinda... The remaining issue is the bass and kick. Should I replace the kick? Many thanks! :)
     
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    Replace the kick as it is way too dull anyway. Your bass and your pluck sounds still overlap.

    Use the free Voxengo SPAN plugin to check where your frequencies overlap.

    If you're new to this technique, use this
    https://www.wavesfactory.com/trackspacer/
    you can find it on the sister site.

    Alos use Sidechaining effect on your bass to make room for the kick. Do not overuse it or you'll get the pumping effect.

    Easiest tool also found on the sister site
    http://www.kickstart-plugin.com

    more rich tool also on the sister site
    http://www.cableguys.de/volume-shaper.html
     
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    And remember another fundamental rule. Mix at at least -9db ! if you don't leave headroom for the mix, you'll run into trouble.
    Acquire a good habit by lowering faders as soon as you can. if your kick is too low, decrease surrounding sounds. Do not increase the kick volume. True for anything. Then, you'll have plenty of room to work with on your mix.
     
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    well im not going to criticize the guy here about his work nor gonna
    talk about tweaking and mastering as fellow members already said that already
    so im gonna give honest feedback here regarding the melodies
    i actually liked the melodies here ,it has classical melodies
    sure its familiar sound and style that i heard it before
    it happens when your mind produce something else instead of original plan while building tracks
    i mean what i liked about your track here is the intro melodies,very smooth
    and i liked bpm it fits the mood (usually trance goes higher)but your track has indeed
    that old classic feelings (80s sound combined with trance elements
    and thats what i recognized and understood what you wanted to produce
    at least thats my feed back here and i appreciate what you tried to produce here
    thank you
     
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    Much better with the new kick. Still, your bass is muddy. You should change your preset or add a FM type bass attack sound to it. EQ it also so it does not overlap the nexus . I've sent you a file on PM. Ckeck it to program your bass in a way as it does not interfere with other sounds.
     
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