Virtual headphone sourround

Discussion in 'how to make "that" sound' started by metaller, Nov 2, 2017.

Tags:
  1. metaller

    metaller Audiosexual

    Joined:
    May 28, 2016
    Messages:
    778
    Likes Received:
    544
    Location:
    Persia
    There is an app for android called Viper4android FX, that has a feature called headphone surround +.
    It simply makes my mixes great when I check them on my smartphone with headphones. For example, the metal guitars are heard better and defined very good against rest of the mix.
    Also, when I listen to other artists songs, most of the time, it sounds better.

    I actually want to know how I can achieve this in the DAW for generic music consumers. I mix on headphones.

     
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2017
    metaller, Nov 2, 2017
    1
  2. Ads Master

    Ads Master

     
  3. junh1024

    junh1024 Rock Star

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2011
    Messages:
    1,397
    Likes Received:
    433
    BTW it's still not 'real surround', it's a combination of hearing simulation via HRTF/crossfeed, and simple stereo expansion (see here https://hydrogenaud.io/index.php/topic,112842.0.html )

    See some HRTF VSTs here

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...SUL5SlWSDGZBhnDXg4RqD_0B8_QXINTYr_U6p/pubhtml

    BTW if you're mixing on headphones, DO use HRTF to monitor occasionally, but switch it off for your final export since it may sound terrible on speakers, since HRTF is designed SPECIFICALLY for headphones.
     
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2017
    • Winner Winner x 2
    • Like Like x 1
    • List
    junh1024, Nov 2, 2017
    2
  4. metaller

    metaller Audiosexual

    Joined:
    May 28, 2016
    Messages:
    778
    Likes Received:
    544
    Location:
    Persia
    Thank you very much. I definitely will try this
    BTW, No one listens to music through speakers anymore. :mates:
    so it is safe to use it. Source
     
    metaller, Nov 2, 2017
    3
  5. junh1024

    junh1024 Rock Star

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2011
    Messages:
    1,397
    Likes Received:
    433
    Best Answer
    >55% of music listeners use their smartphones,

    Yes, but it didn't say through phones WITH headphones. THing is,

    • If you target headphones, it will sound good on headphones ONLY
    • If you target speakers, it will sound good on speakers AND headphones

    I was about to delete my HRTF link last night because I realize there's too much fakery going on other than HRTF so my spreadsheet=irrelevant.
    ===
    Stereo width expansions are not that mono-compatible, this is esp. importannt cuz many fones still have MONO speakers,

    Perhaps this doc is mpore relevant

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...rXsk7rfD-94yuL6LiwQ0QCzOYn2wlDLZhNhz6/pubhtml

    it is suggested 2 Use stereoizers on buses/tracks only, & not the hwole mix.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
    • Useful Useful x 1
    • List
    junh1024, Nov 2, 2017
    4
  6. metaller

    metaller Audiosexual

    Joined:
    May 28, 2016
    Messages:
    778
    Likes Received:
    544
    Location:
    Persia
    Because I don't have speakers or monitors I should use waves Nx or similar plugin, if I want to target the speakers. I should mess around to see what goes. If I want to use waves Nx, for example, I need to use it on just mix bus, right?

    Thank you for the new spreadsheet.
    For new VSTs you mentioned I should try different configurations to see what goes.
     
    Last edited: Nov 3, 2017
    metaller, Nov 3, 2017
    5
  7. johndoehizzle

    johndoehizzle Kapellmeister

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2017
    Messages:
    122
    Likes Received:
    68
    beyerdynamic virtual studio , its free . heres a demo..look it up on google.tons of links for it.

     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Interesting Interesting x 1
    • List
    johndoehizzle, Nov 9, 2017
    6
  8. Legotron

    Legotron Audiosexual

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2017
    Messages:
    2,550
    Likes Received:
    2,470
    Location:
    Hyperborea
    • Like Like x 1
    • Interesting Interesting x 1
    • List
    Legotron, Nov 9, 2017
    7
  9. Baxter

    Baxter Audiosexual

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2011
    Messages:
    3,950
    Likes Received:
    2,789
    Location:
    Sweden
    Just stick to mixing in stereo, and add the width and depth while tracking, producing and mixing. Delays, reverbs, Haas, HRTF, M/S EQ, M/S compression, and a mix and match of them all.

    Or simply buy speakers/monitors. Your mixes will benefit.
     
    Baxter, Nov 9, 2017
    8
  10. metaller

    metaller Audiosexual

    Joined:
    May 28, 2016
    Messages:
    778
    Likes Received:
    544
    Location:
    Persia
    Thank you very much, I will try these :mates:
     
    metaller, Nov 9, 2017
    9
  11. metaller

    metaller Audiosexual

    Joined:
    May 28, 2016
    Messages:
    778
    Likes Received:
    544
    Location:
    Persia
    I don't have the cash to buy speaker or new headphones. I should do my best with my existing tools. Maybe, I do a strange job, and release two kind of mixes for different situations. :invision: the only thing that gets really better are metal rhythm guitars that are stereo. maybe using these plugins on the guitar buss won't hurt the mix for listening on speakers.
     
    metaller, Nov 9, 2017
    10
  12. Retrolize77

    Retrolize77 Audiosexual

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2017
    Messages:
    1,388
    Likes Received:
    1,005
    Retrolize77, Jan 28, 2018
    11
Loading...
Similar Threads - Virtual headphone sourround Forum Date
Serato and Virtual DJ Headphones setup on Audient iD14 mkii beginners corner Nov 19, 2021
Waves Nx - A Virtual Mix Room Over Headphones Plug-in With 50% Off Launch Price ANY ONE TRY Software Jan 29, 2016
Virtual Mix Rack and others from Slate Digital are not being recognized on my DAWs Software Monday at 3:13 PM
Save 80% on Retrologue 2 virtual analog synthesizer by Steinberg Software News Dec 19, 2025
failed using original virtualDJ licence after using R2R keygen Software Dec 13, 2025
Loading...