I was wondering if some plugin exists that keeps volume of a track always on the same level. I will expand this point.
I would like to do EQ and Compression with various plugs (and not necessarely with 112db redline equalizer which has this functionality built in) without boosting (or reducing) the volume while triggering changes.
Don't know if Waves Vocal Rider and Bass Rider could work for this scope on every kind of track (mono/stereo) or there is something more generic.

 

If you ask me, that should be part and function of every DAW.

Some things like this are just out of the radar of the developers.

I don't know why this isn't realized already or what the problems
might are to implement such feature in a DAW.

 

Of course Waves Riders work perfect for that ! (I just tried to be sure)

True !

 

Thanks Marju.. nice tip

btw going to suggest this functionality in reaper forums

 

Waves L1 or L2 also do the job well. *yes*

 

What you are after is a limiter plugin, or hard compression. Either way, it is going to modify your dynamics quite a bit. The reason it is not done by default is simple, it changes your audio dynamics and only you should be doing that kind of thing, not automatically by the DAW.

 

Since it can be a very usuful functionality to preview changes in sound without being distracted by volume changes, it shouldn't necessarily be an automatic behaviour of the DAW a simple on/off switch could do the job. That's true even because you would need to switch it on only during your eq/compression adjustment and then switch it off.

 

Manight, you are missing the point. In order for any processor to retain the same average volume or volume peak it will have to readjust audio by either a combination of limiting and compression or drop/gain volume. The resulting audio will not represent the true changes after a simple EQ hence this adjustment is best done by the user.

It is also against the basic functionality of a DAW which does not maintain any data for the whole track instead processes it in realtime, like a real studio+mixer setup. An alternate to this is to use a program like Adobe Audition which is a hybrid audio editor and mixer (destructive and non-destructive editing) where you make changes in an audio file are immediately reflected in the waveform which you can then adjust for volume.

 

I have used Waves vocal rider, but sometimes it screws with attacks or makes other weird stuff.

There's also Meldaproduction MAutovolume which does a zimilar thing.

 

Sorry Threadkiller but I'm missing your point. A volume change wouldn't affect the final audio (as would limiting/compressing) so a dynamic volume change wich will retain the volume level the track had when you activated the function, seems a quite "simple" trick to implement, and since it will not distort/color/compress audio in any way, much useful. I guess that's why 112DB had this function built-in in their EQ.
Also I'm missing your second point, but here my poor understand of english may come into play so I'm sorry about it. Anyway this should be just an utility function to hear real compression/EQ changes in realtime to your sound without being fooled by volume increase. So it's just a temporary track switch, of course when you got the sound you want, you turn off the auto-level function and finally set the appropriate volume on the track based on the changes you made.

 

Hmmm...to debate further or not...that is the question. Lets not.

Also check out Stereotool's vst version, it is for radio processing but the AGC (Automatic Gain Control) function might be useful to you guys.

www.stereotool.com

 

Thank you mate going to check. Btw as I said maybe my crap english plays big role in my misunderstading ;)

 

Oh no problem man.

 

i use 2 such plugins

Blue Cat Audio Protector v2.0
and
LoudMax v1.2

both are on our sister site

 

They they have built-in auto gain compensation, like Melda stuff or 112DB Redline EQ.
Anyway I discovered a little gem (also got in touch with the developer and suggested to take the project again and "polish" it a bit and go 64bit).
The gem is: http://www.sadglad.com/SV/Super-Volu.html (yes .. I suggested him to change the name as well)
You place 1 istance at the start of your effect chain, one at the end, and you can EQ/Compress/Distort without being deceived by changes in the audio level. When you finished just turn them off and set you desidered level for the track as always.
A real precious gem that will let you have the auto gain functionality in every plug or plug chain!

 

just a limiter with long release and set the threshold to the lowest level of the audio. my suggestion...

 

This will compress the sound. This plugs doesn't touch the sound, is totally trasparent. His main function is exactly to let you hear all the changes YOU do the sound without being deceived by volume changes (mostly increas that will let you think it sounds better)

 

I use my ears and a volume knob(fader), works great!!!!

 

Came across this today. If you have max4live and ableton check out these patches. You place one before your plugins and one after. It helps keep the gain even while making eq decisions. its good but not 100. Anyone else have a suggestion?

Sender
http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device/3150/audio-amplitude-preserver-sender

---- your plugins ----

Reciever
http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device/3151/audio-amplitude-preserver-receiver

 

waves vocal and bass rider.