Is subscribing to Sonic Academy worth it

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  1. Rummy

    Rummy Newbie

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    Hi guys i'm new to music creation i do DJ but only play parties and some weddings and all other peoples music and would like to get into making some of my own stuff i have a copy of Live 8 Suite i found that easy to use(Not that i have tryed any other DAW) i also have a Novation Impulse 49 midi keyboard i have been reading CM,Future Music n Music Tech mags, watching video tutorials on youtube and have learnt alot from those and have a couple of tunes i have been working on but i would like to get some more knowledge about electronic music mixing and all that jazz. I came across Sonic Academy and i was just wondering if it would be worth subscribing to it or is there a better site around. I could go to the nearest major city and pay 400+ for an actual course somewhere like ministry of sound academy but i would have to quit my job and move away i would rather not any ideas would be helpful thanks.
     
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  3. bigboobs

    bigboobs Kapellmeister

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    The tutorials are streamlined. You get what the titles say. Working with music need experience, and you can't get experience in somewhat hours. You have to spend months or years to become a good producer. SA tutorials can help you. You'll get all necessary basics for modern music production. If you have a basic knowledge, you can work on your own style afterwards. It's not working without basics. Keep this in mind!
     
  4. xsze

    xsze Guest

    This is the shit: http://www.dancemusicproduction.com/

    Or if you have money and wan't dedicated online course http://www.quantizecourses.com/pages.php/

    Sonic Academy IMHO don't worth the money, the amount of stuff shown there is overpowered by amount of bullshit you can pickup up, believe me, it's cool when you download it for free, learn few tricks and have a nice laugh about the rest, that's all.

    DMP will give you professional approach without bullshit,lot off talk and real world things, not just this is the easiest way to make lame track using your native tools, after you only know how to recreate that track using the knowledge and insights from tutorial.

    Quantize is personal 1 on 1 Ableton Live course that IMO is the best way to approach whole thing, trainer will work with you personally, he will cover all the things you need and you will learn everything to make your track, not to recreate some lame one.
     
  5. Alpha0ne

    Alpha0ne Producer

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    Go to youtube or vimeo. Watch everything about ableton live. Also check tomcosm. He does not uses any thirdparty plugins from what i have seen. But makes alot with Ableton Live itself. He is a guru of its own. I also recommend jimpavloff's remaking of 2 famous Prodigy tracks with ableton. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU5Dn-WaElI&feature=plcp and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZYLp5uX9Yw&feature=plcp



    Happy learning.
     
  6. A.Kurbel

    A.Kurbel Newbie

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    i do stuff like sonic academy. if you want to learn about mixing and so on, just check my youtube channel. you can find videos about starting an edm track from scratch until the finished version: http://www.youtube.com/user/akurbel
    but i have to say sonic academy is nice (sometimes the tracks are a bit crappy) and worth subscribing!
     
  7. xsze

    xsze Guest

    +1 on tom cosm
     
  8. dokx1

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    For beginners SA is very helpful - I learned a lot there when I started. And I never cared about "crappy" tracks, I was aware that it's not about creating a masterpiece, but to learn basic techniques.

    Unfortuntely there's almost no advanced stuff, and mostly main stream styles like "Future Electro" od "Glitch Step" - their stuff obviously is catered to the typical 16 year old Ableton/Logic Electro House/Dubstep guy. So no Industrial, no Ambient, no (real) Electro for example.

    They have a lot of free stuff to take a peak.

    Groove3 has some nice stuff, as well as Macpro. I learned a lot from Timothy Allen and Olav Basoski.

    There's lots of good stuff on Youtube, but also a lot of garbage as well...

    @A.Kurbel
    I like your stuff, waiting for the next upload... ;)

    One important advice at last: Never forget to produce, tutorials can be very time consuming and a vicious means to procrastination. :)
     
  9. ArticStorm

    ArticStorm Moderator Staff Member

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    well i like Sonic Academy alot, then Macprovideo, groove3 and also dubspot. but in the end you have to do all the stuff alone - atleast work thru it after seeing it. itll help to learn faster - so i wouldnt say its useless.
     
  10. dokx1

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    Well some of their stuff is so damn boring, often while watching I felt like a patient hunter waiting and waiting for at least one precious prey to come by...;)
     
  11. xsze

    xsze Guest

    Agree there is tons of talk, but useful one, he is really honest and talks like it is, personally I like the talk, he really goes to the bottom of every subject and the weight off given knowledge is not that basic, some newcomer can really adopt useful things and start the journey with right mindset.

    But as everything, it's personal reference :)
     
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    ArticStorm Moderator Staff Member

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    like pjotr said turn your vlc at 2x :P
     
  13. crumpy

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    subscribe, capture, and provide.
    nuff said.
     
  14. google

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    sonic academy are lame.

    They are way to general info. "how to write __insert title__ style" rubbish tips

    IRISH accent NOY this NOY that. The word is NOW not NOY FFS.

    Depends what your into

    subscribe to computer music magazine ,for pro tips vidoes, from people who release good music and make money.


    "NOY let write some Drum and Bass (turd in the series of three)" (the word is third)
     
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    paraplu020 Banned

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    your comment is too damn funny, i totally feel you lol!
    for the ones who need it...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osFTAMDkVQc
     
  16. Rummy

    Rummy Newbie

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    Thanks alot guys for the help i use Windows not a fan of apple i have heard Pro tools is a great DAW i mite check it out. I'am a beginner so SA would help from the start and then i would want to get in to more advanced stuff i don't really care about crappy tracks as long as i learn some new stuff.
    Xsze http://www.dancemusicproduction.com/ i will check it out the DMP The Complete Anthology would be what i would look into looks realy solid http://www.quantizec....com/pages.php/ i will look further into, Alpha0ne yes youtube is good and i will take a look at tomcosm and jim pavloff's work, A.Kurbel i will check you out in the near future, dokx1 i have seen some awful stuff on youtube but one tutorial by the Tornado Twins was great an i got a lot out of it. crumpy if i do subscribe i will capture and help out a brother in need lol and Google i do buy CM but being in Australia 1 in 3 of the dvd's that come with it usually don't work properly which is a shame if anyone knows where i can find the dvd from Synths The Ultimate Guide would be apreciated. I am reading Synths the ultimate guide at the moment knowing a little about oscillators (Using the operator in Live and fiddeling with the parameters to get sound helps) and what they are but now knowing a bit more about how they work is good to know and again thanks for the help i have a sample tune i have been working on with some samples i have and ill post it here when i get it up on soundcloud cheers guys.
     
  17. xsze

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    As I recommend everyone, first learn your DAW, than synthesis and basic music theory, the rest is up to you, but it's best to learn about the tools you use like EQ,compressors,reverbs,delays etc and specific 3rd party ones just to jump right in the track.

    My young friend started growing interest for production, so I set him program for learning, boy I never saw In my life dude with 1 months of learning behind him tweaking synth with such a knowledge, composing the melody and trying to process the sound accordingly to what he learned, and all of that just because he didn't wasted any time, jumped to the point right on, I wish there was someone to do the same for me years ago, but hey it's not that bad :)
     
  18. ArticStorm

    ArticStorm Moderator Staff Member

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    i grabbed all their HTMthat to learn ableton and it really helped me a lot to get started in there.
    not sure when you want to learn something special - grab your synths - your daw and spend some time with it and get creative.
     
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