Hi fellow musicians! I'm new here at the forum but been a quiet user for long time. Care to take a listen this and give some feedback, good or bad I know there are some timings issues with guitars and actually dont like the guitar sound cause my guitars humbucker mics. Also some instruments velocities may sound too loud or too quiet.I'd Would really apprecite some input. Thank you!

Heres the track:

https://soundcloud.com/pasimak/

 

Hi pasi, nice track, well done.

Some impressions:
I would brighten up the piano reverb (low cut/shelf).
The intro is maybe one cycle too long.
The transitions at 1:26 and 2:37 could be smoother. Especially the first one is easy to do with a longer crescendo this one is to short (it really startled me).
In the part starting at 2:37 the drums are way in the back but the cyms don't really fit, they are too bright for distant ones and they are too repetitive. You could change the cyms being played (high low, left right and between) and play them on the 1 sometimes too.
I would put both guitars on the right side (where the second is), opposite to the piano, violas right of the guitars, celli in the middle.

 

Hi No Avenger! Thanks for listening and most importantly for the input and advice. This is my first track on this genre. I mainly play heavy music. I'll make those changes you advised and lets see how does it sound then

Again thank you very much!

 

You're welcome.

Don't tell the others but we rockers got it

First of all let's hear it.

 

nice. i would warm up the strings, bit less reverb too. compress the strings a bit more. basically warm up everything with the use of lowpass filters

 

Thank you korte1975!

 

Nice track. Some great feedback already. 'Startling' is good sometimes?
I like the chords from 2:30 on. but the first repetitious one at 1:26 could use something different bass note wise, changing the inversions or adding some sort of top note movement on the quarter note strings.
Instead of repeating the F G A on bass try:
F/C G/D Am/E
or
F/A G/B Am/C
or
F/D G/E Am/F

Now upload some of that heavy stuff.

need an upgrade?

 

Last edited by a moderator: Oct 23, 2017

Thanks for the input dragonhill! I appreciate your advises!

And heavy stuff will follow!

 

Songwise, I really like it, but I agree with dragonhill about spicing up those chords...Remember: tension and relief. Creative chord changes are great to grab the listener's attention.

Mixwise, I just think is too bright, specially on the busy parts. The piano/keyboard gets too loud too.

Personally, I always like to have a clear picture of the drums, and they're kind of buried underneath the rest of the sounds.

One thing that works really well for me is to mix the drums first, getting the right balance, body and attack for each part of the kit, but mostly getting kick, snare and hi-hats to collaborate with each other. Then I add the bass and make sure its not masking any frequencies on the kick and snare. Once you get the rhythmic part right, the rest gets easier.

Then add your main instrument which, in your case, is the guitar. Make it sit right with the rhythmic session.

At this stage, decrease your monitors volume until you can barely hear anything. At low volume, you should be able to clearly hear the kick's beater, the snare attack, the hat's "shhh", the higher frequencies of your bassline and, most importantly, you should be able to clearly hear your melodic line above anything else. Mixing in low volume really works.

Anyway, the last think you should add is the piano/keyboard. Keys are always problematic on a busy mix like this. They always want to keep the whole spectrum for themselves, masking everything else. So, take note of what are the main frequencies for the kick, snare, bass and other main instruments and then cut these frequencies on the keyboard's eq, until you can make it coexist with everything else.

To sum up: You should get more presence, definition and clarity from individual elements in your mix and take more time to fine tune the low end.

Just my two cents.

 

Last edited: Oct 24, 2017

@RMorgan, I really agree with your work flow. Especially mixing at low volume. I've found that to be a great method for getting track volumes right, vocals for example.
For Eq work, I'll give it a listen at both loud, normal, and low volumes just to see where things sit which has seemed to help my tonal adjustments greatly.

 

@RMorgan on principle I agree with your post but you can put the drums as a whole in the background, this can be very atmospheric (don't kmow if this expression is correct in this context).
Pianos have one of the biggest tonal range so it's in the nature of things that they cover the whole spectrum and I wouldn't cut those frequencies but lower them.
@digitaldragon loud and low, right, people tend to forget one of these but you will need both of them. Especially high volume is needed to judge if you have overdone some frequencies throughout the whole spectrum.

 

Low volume is really useful to determine if you have a track too loud or too low if it disappears.

 

Thanks all for the feedback. I'm working on the new mix as we speak. As for the "drums" RMorgan you are right and wrong at this particular song. The percussions are just the to give the atmospheric feel as digitaldragon pointed. And you Rmorgan you said mix is too bright but say needs presence? Main thing on this song is the piano, strings and those few guitars. I dont want any of those percussions to be overpowering. Those cymbals gonna change too. Also what is stated here by few of you is mixing loud and low. I dont have at this moment good studio monitors but good AKG phones and mixing with blood on your ears is not the best choice :D And I tend to turn the volume up and up cause my ears dont work anymore but you think you are doing a great mix but NO!. You all know this. Then few days later after listening you are WTF I have done with this mix! Sounds terrible! :D

 

hey nice to see someone playing in the same area as me i did something like this a few years back and im still trying to expand on the idea...nice work i would try to get some more realism out of it over all. the guitars is my track were used more as high pads take a listen if youd like

 

Love it Robbie! Ethera Choirs?

 

best services Shevannai

 

Sounds like Ethera..gonna take a closer look on that cause sounds great. Also Following your SC ;) Great stuff!

 

thanks man will follow back!