DAWs abandoning Windows 7.

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by Von_Steyr, Sep 27, 2017.

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What will you do?

  1. Stay on windows 7.

    48.9%
  2. Migrate to Windows 8

    0.8%
  3. Migrate to Windows 10

    7.6%
  4. I have already migrated to 8/10.

    36.6%
  5. Windows Xp Pro FTW.

    1.5%
  6. I am really scared.

    4.6%
  1. digitaldragon

    digitaldragon Audiosexual

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    This thread helped me, but the help wasn't really in direct relation to the thread title. :dunno:
     
  2. MMJ2017

    MMJ2017 Audiosexual

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    dude i had no problem making albums on a pentium 2 in 1997. i think i can manage on xp, or windows 7 or windows eleventeen! lol
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  3. Von_Steyr

    Von_Steyr Guest

    Its not the same. Because technology evolved slower in the last few years.
    Now you`re just mocking us, because it has nothing to do with the arguments we have presented.
     
  4. KidPix

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    Yes!
    Win10 LTSB is the best!! (en_windows_10_enterprise_2016_ltsb_x64_dvd_9059483.iso)
    https://forums.mydigitallife.net/th...refresh-pc-mobile.70297/page-200#post-1305920
    To activate https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/kmspico-official-thread.65739/

    Lots of information at https://forums.mydigitallife.net/forums/windows-10.54/

    Can create custom updated/tweaked ISO with MSMG ToolKit
    https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/msmg-toolkit.50572/
    The current updates for September 2017: (to create updated ISO)
    http://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q= 2017-09 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1607 for x64-based Systems (KB4038782)
    http://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q= 2017-08 Update for Windows 10 Version 1607 for x64-based Systems (KB4035631)
    http://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=2017-09 Security Update for Adobe Flash Windows 10 1607 for x64-based Systems (KB4038806)

    Complementary utilities:
    O&O ShutUp10
    https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
    Windows Update MiniTool Integrator
    https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/windows-update-minitool-integrator-v1-0.71286/
    Double Commander File manager
    https://doublecmd.sourceforge.io/
    Sergei Strelec USB boot tools
    http://sergeistrelec.ru/winpe_10/69...-x64-native-x86-20161107-english-version.html

    Like MSMG ToolKit, but to access all the bells/whistlers have to pay:
    https://www.winreducer.net/winreducer-ex-100.html
    https://www.ntlite.com
     
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  5. thantrax

    thantrax Audiosexual

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    Look at my post. I have updated the Microsoft O.S. life-cycle table.
     
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  6. spacetime

    spacetime Platinum Record

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    if it works and you like it, why change it?
     
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  7. taskforce

    taskforce Audiosexual

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    @Von_Steyr : Well, i voted alright but the thing is, MS will most probably have a new OS before some major DAW drops Win7 support. And with win10 having been the failure it is, perhaps this will be much sooner than everybody thinks. But to be honest i don't think for a second, a new "Win11" will be better than Win10. Imho they have all their attention into how to profit from personal users' stats and info with no regard to privacy whatsoever. I only wait for a better server version perhaps with no Telemetry at all. Yeah i know wishful thinking hahaha. And please everybody don't start me with LTSB and blah, it still sucks in everyday usage, plus it looks like win95 in high res.
    Cheers
     
  8. Von_Steyr

    Von_Steyr Guest

    Somewhere, someone is taking the best of the win OS and creating an android like freeware that will be tailored for the DAW environment.
    Im tired of Microsoft as well, this dependency has to end, we are like fucking hostages here.
     
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  9. SineWave

    SineWave Audiosexual

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    Word. :wink: I'm tired of MS as well and just waiting for a better alternative and in the mean time 7 and even 8 work just fine. I build computers that last 10+ years, with quality components and people will be making music with them and W7 well into 2020s. ;)

    But as I said, more and more of my clients demand OSX and I can't blame them, so I deliver. It's a very viable alternative for now. Not much better, but better.
     
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  10. MMJ2017

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    belive it or not, i was making an argument of my own there. as far as....
    slower in the last few years? hahaha. hahah. lol. hahaha.ha
    besides i havent heard anyone make much
    arguments, instead just saying what they prefer or like( which is to be expected given this topic)
     
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  11. MMJ2017

    MMJ2017 Audiosexual

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    privacy?

    "
    pri·va·cy
    ˈprīvəsē/
    noun
    noun: privacy
    the state or condition of being free from being observed or disturbed by other people.
    "she returned to the privacy of her own home"
    synonyms: seclusion, solitude, isolation, freedom from disturbance, freedom from interference
    "protecting one's privacy"
    the state of being free from public attention."



    dude, if you want privacy dont have a smart phone, dont have the internet or laptop or computer, these are OPPOSITE of the what the definition of "privacy" is haha
    I don't believe in privacy. the only thing i can see privacy used for is doing things you don't want people finding out about . you should be proud of what you do , and being proud means happy to have it shared and known about because you are doing the right moral thing.
    I think the super rich have too much privacy the mob like governments have too much privacy to cover up things they dont want people knowing.
    lets do away with privacy so they cannot be hiding away doing these things and controlling people then covering it up.
     
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  12. taskforce

    taskforce Audiosexual

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    Well... Von Steyr is technically correct from a certain pov. This pov says Intel has had the upper hand the last 10 years (up to last year when Ryzen was introduced). And because CPU for the most part it has been a one company deal for both Mac and PC, Intel has been giving users slight incremental upgrades which are just complete ripoffs grabbing people's money by making them constantly change mobos etc for no apparent reason. I mean WTH my mobo had 16 pci lanes 10 years ago, where the fuk is the progress ? In x99 and x299 chipsets ? 40 pci lanes,+4 for the chipset? DMI restrictions ? Infinite incompatibility within their own ecosystem? what a fkin mess i say. AMD Threadripper shows a clear path to the future, if only it wasn't for the weaker single threaded performance and lack of Thunderbolt due to partial Intel ownership. But it's just getting started.
    So excuse my AMD favoring atm, but since Intel has held the pro and consumer side of the market in computer cpus, the evolution has been slow, especially the last 5 years. So yes slower :)
    Cheers
     
  13. Von_Steyr

    Von_Steyr Guest

    I have an ipad and i love it, easy and intuitive, blows away any other tablet, but for serious work i need serious, reliable stuff and win 10 really didnt convince. Its not that im avoiding it because its newer its just so sneaky and unintelligent. Would i use it? Yes if there were no other options but as long as i can use 7, i will.
     
  14. Von_Steyr

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    Couldnt have said it better. :hifive:
     
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  15. taskforce

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    Sure. Let's do away with democracy too. You realize what you say is steppin over the boundary of freedom for any individual ?
    Also (EDIT),if this was , lets say a next day law, in the real world it would only apply to the average and the poor as it has always been. Rich people will always have a means of avoiding and covering up the shit they do, at least in most times imho. An acquaintance of mine had an everyday motto. "What i cannot do with money, i do it with more money."
    Of course i despise him for this, but his phrase hides this bitter truth everybody understands, so need to explain it.
    Cheers man
     
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  16. MMJ2017

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    I dont know what to say , other than you CLEARLY have no clue about the actual hardware involved or software involved. great storytelling though lol
     
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  17. MMJ2017

    MMJ2017 Audiosexual

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    democracy is OPPOSITE of privacy! democracy is people co-operating working together, privacy is someone hiding from others so they cannot see something that the person is so embarrassed about that dont want anyone to find out what they did. they obviously are not proud of it. that by DEFINITION is opposite of democracy

    democracy can only suceed with TRANSPARENCY. transparency is opposite of privacy. i believe in democracy.
     
  18. Von_Steyr

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    Bro, compare a few years old I7 3770k with an I7 6700k....2012 and 2016....small difference, 4!!! years apart.
     
  19. MMJ2017

    MMJ2017 Audiosexual

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    LETS compare

    http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-3770K/3502vs1317


    when you factor in every variable i couldn't possibly call that a "small" difference, i could only call it "massive" difference.

    ( you cannot do anything with each these cpu by themselves they have to be put in a system, and when yo look at the performance of what each cpu's compatible with the over all performance is massive difference.( i used to own a 3770k was great for its time but nothing like running my new system with i7 7700k and all new mobo tech.)

    when you look at all specs and especially the 6700k overclocked it destroys the 3770k( whole system vs whole sys)
     
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