Did the Teams lose interest in OSX?

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  1. fritzm

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    I wish the world would lose interest in Mac. Looks like only a pathetic 3.7% of computer users in the world are on Mac. Look here

    Only problem is, those 3.7 % include Toontrack, Spectrasonics, Spitfire, etc., most major studios, etc., most major producers, etc., most schools, etc. Most of the Professional music industry, etc. Not trying to open an another stupid PC vs Mac debate, just getting tired of uninformed comments like the one above. Personally, I am glad we have a choice.
     
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  2. krakdhaus

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    I've been on mac since '93... doing audio brought me to it. I'm so comfortable using it, that it is second nature. I've only started in using Windows since W10 came out... and reading good reviews on it. Slapped in a Bootcamp partition and took it for a spin. I don't see that much difference between the two (although under the hood I'm sure there is). I'm sure the Team's all use Windows... and I'm always psyched finding some newfangled plug to make more slime ooze from my monitors. I've Bootcamp'd all my Mac's and put together a Hackintosh 12" i7 Thinkpad X201 Tablet (which is... AWESOME!). In the studio though... I do prefer to use OSX... just because of familiarity. My main DAW is DP9... (which I was happy when MOTU ported it over). Yes, I have more plugs then should be allowed... but I don't really use them in the studio as much as I like playing around on them for fun. And yes... Apple has really dropped it in the pro-sumer market... but I think that it is still the preferred platform in the industry (eh... my opinion...). Just sayin' I'd like to see there is still an interest in OSX... that it all hasn't disappeared into a phone.. or worse... a watch.
     
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  3. Voo

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    One point is there does seem to be a decline in groups in general (PC and Mac)
     
  4. lasteno

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    another post that ends with the classic "Windows vs Mac" battle,
    unbelievable.
     
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  5. saltwater

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    not really, yet
     
  6. No Avenger

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    shall we?? [​IMG]
     
  7. Herr Durr

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    let's roll... :knock:
     
  8. subGENRE

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    Mac vs pc?
    How about boobs vs butts
    [​IMG]
     
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  9. Iggy

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    A major point that I believe the teams themselves would agree with is: it's a lot harder to k Mac software, or Macs themselves, than it is to k Windoze-based software. Yeah, it totally sucks that we Mac users have to contend with far fewer crashes, less malware, less hardware incompatibility issues, fully-integrated Thunderbolt 1,2 and (soon) 3, better overall security, etc. Also, it totally sucks that we can read and write Windoze files, or, if we choose, run Windoze and macOS simultaneously, or even boot from Windoze, all without having to do any special tinkering to the motherboards of a Mac computer so we can Frankenstein another OS on our existing system, while a PC is also natively capable of running ... Linux. Which a Mac can also do.

    I won't sit here and defend Macs, even though I've been using them since 1993. Ever since they ditched the mighty Mac Pro tower for whatever the hell that black air freshener is (roughly right after Jobs passed on, R.I.P.), they've been slowly but surely phasing out their computer division, and rewarding remaining users with progressively shittier OS upgrades while also implementing a draconian forced obsolescence that ensures anybody who doesn't wish to migrate to Windoze will have to spend roughly the price of a used car every year on a newer -- though by no means faster! -- computer that continues to justify their iffy existence as a computer manufacturer. Hell, I've had my eye on a RADAR Station for a good long while, and a base RADAR Station without the iZ converters is waaaay cheaper than a new Mac Pro (that won't even allow you to upgrade the hard drive or RAM without a soldering iron). If I wasn't wringing my hands over having to track down and grab all the k'd software I already have for my Mac in Windoze form, it would be a much easier decision.

    However, it should also be pointed out that Apple really doesn't need to make computers anymore. The poster on this thread who stated that only 3.7 people in the world use Macs conveniently forgot to point out that 79 percent of the world's smart phone profits go to Apple (as of 2016, hey, look here!). As I don't even own a smart phone, this means shit to me, but if we're playing percentages, Apple definitely wins.
     
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  10. GreatJobChamp

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    Teams are on windows I believe... it's always the renegades that are doin the mac stuff... well, if warez people themselves are renegades, than bein a mac person is renegade on higher level.. Copyl3ft3r...the MAN was a true champ
     
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  11. Von_Steyr

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    Isnt this a map of socialist countries? lol
     
  12. fiction

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    Aren't we talking about musicians, not people in general?
    Aren't we talking about MacOS, not iOS?
     
  13. Jeen

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    what a contructive answer but i know you don't give a f...:rofl:
     
  14. Jeen

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    the question for me is more .... what is the % of Mac users in musical production ???
    i don't think that is 3,5%
     
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  15. Pinkman

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    I despise segregation but let us take a moment to separate the engineers from the artists.
    And yes, there is a Venn diagram for this.
     
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  16. fritzm

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    I'm definitely in the butt camp, but hey, that's how I roll.
     
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    Add Depeche Mode to the list... :wink:

    btw. I'm a "butt guy". Never cared much for boobs. It's hard to see them from the back anyway... :rofl:
     
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  18. Jeen

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    i agree but some engineers turn to producers ...as fab dupont
     
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    There aren't as many people focused on cracking these days. I'm ex-scene (30 plus years - multiplatform) and most of the best have lives, health issues, what have you. Not much new blood coming in to fill the holes, much like North America's Trades. Pretty soon there will be no one to do the jobs because the kids are all stuck to mobile devices and mass consumption of brain rotting media. :snuffy:

    Many things are unreleased due to cracker uninterest (no challenge) or lack of complete media. Some groups will only touch full media, not single file downloads. There are numerous reasons things happen.

    As for OSX, they never had the deep tools they do on Windows for cracking. They tend to stick to what is easy, or similar schemes like licence engines (RLM), not dongled or multi-layered protection schemes. It doesn't help that OSX tends to break things every iteration due to Apple's development scope.
     
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  20. Moonlight

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    PC Hardware + macOS = best of both worlds :)
     
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