Hey guys !!

Just got in this forum !!

You guys seems to get along very well, its much apreciated here

I just took a look at some of your topics on Mastering and loudness war and stuff, people seems to tend to be against the loudness war but also seem to understand the importance of having the same level as the next track playing

So this said , i took a closer look at what people ( count me in ) have against this LOUDNESS processing !

I Have found that most of them ( me included ) didnt like those artefact and glitch appearing after these dynamic squashed.

So i started to look for transparent Compressor ....and i must admit that there's like SHIT LOAD of them out there !!

But seriously, i have tried a bunch of them....and i must admit that im going on the ''how do you achieve this loud master'' people side right now.
Mainly because my compressor isnt giving me the proper result when i'm pushing my mix to +6db. ( Noise appear )

So i have found this little toy ( NOT CRACK YET but available as complete demo )

http://www.algorithmix.com/en/lp_splitcomp.htm

*wish someone will understand the message*

This guy cost 1250 EURO LOL
Yes ...you read it well....more then a thousand euro LOL
But as i read from professional on other forums...this LIttle guy is THE BEST COMP and more TRANSPARENT one EVER MADE !!!

Maybe thats the answer to all of us , desperatly trying to achieve this LOUD mix and sounding clean like those professional hardware mastering process !!

What do you guys think ??

 

Are you a professional mastering engineer ?

If not you won't use it anyways...!

By the way...
You can use Waves Linear Comp too,
and your ears won't tell a difference. (...but your wallet will...)

 

@ Martel80,

And for you (after having tried it, of course !), what about this 'Little Guy', what is your 'OWN' conclusion ?
Because, in some sense, it's the most important to know for you. How it works for you ? Do you feel comfortable in using it ? Is it too complicated or, a contrario, easy to deal with it with your specific audio stuff ?...

In one sense, you're your better judge and advocate... *yes*

 

That's totally overpriced - like all their other stuff!!
And it's only WiN...
There's NO best compressor existing....it's just a marketing strategy.

 

@Carface : No , i'm not a professional mastering engeneer....i'm just another music producer,the only thing is that i have sensitive ears ( Yes, my ears can tell the difference when i use diffferent compressor with same settings )

@Studio 555: i just discoverd it today :dancing: , so right now, i must admit that i'm pretty amazed by the power of this guy....and you can tweek it freakin precisely...wich make it 10 times better then SSL API or whatever ''name it'' freakin emulation comp i've tried yet.
In fact, this is not an ''Fake-Ass Character Emulation'' plug-in.....This is RAW POWER.
The only thing is, since i got it from today, i havent been able to test my masters in different sound system yet ( only my ''monitors'' and 1 scrap box )....so not into car sound system ( wich i find realy cool to ear grain or dynamix work as this is the sound system that look mostly like headphones but is not ( to me ).

So anyway, if you guys try it , let me know ....and if someone find it somewhere , let me know
My Demo end in 13 days

 

The LinearPhase SplitComp is basically this: http://www.weiss.ch/ds1/ds1.html in VST Plug-In format and along with the PEQ Red & Blue equalizers and The K-Stereo "Ambience Recovery Processor" are top notch processors (reNOVator and some of thier other stuff is out gunned by other really expensive/way over priced DSP tools aimed at the same role). However they
are pretty much the reserve of mastering houses and a very few elitist hobbiest with too much money to throw around. They are not going to give you an extra 6dB of dyamic range
reduction to each track you have mixed down and are knocking up a homebrew master at all. It just is not that simple

Go back to your mixes or even choice of source material to begin with. As great as SplitComp may seem it really is not the magic silver bullet which everyone 'in the know' has and
uses.

Out of curiosity what A/D and D/A converters are you using?

 

Oups....seems like you got confused there !
Or maybe i didnt explain myself clearly !!

First of, i never said a comp could give me a all that i need to achieve a CLEAN Loud master.

Secondly, i already got my master chain and i'm comfy with it....what i was sayin is that i need a good comp...and that ifound it in that one

And as for general info, my converters are RME

So to make clear and precise, i have downloaded the Algorithmix Comp....tryed it ....got myself that transparent top that i needed so I CAN NOW PUSH MY MIX HIGHER IN IT ....and i was comming here to see if anyone tryed it and if anyone found it somewhere as a Full version....because i could seriously use this one after my 2 week trial

Wish this explanation fixed all the confusion we were getting into

Cheers !

 

You may want to check out the flux solera II: I have used on about 30-40 different mastering projects over the years. It is also very a great deal of parameters right at the interface, and it has an "Angel's Share" function that does nice things to the transients and air. And it is $470(US). This was originally only for the Pyramix DAW which was one of the hidden gems in many mastering houses. (it used dsp cards like protools hd for better sound quality/performance.)

here is the review from tapeop:

TapeOP Reveiw

and here is the product.

FLUX Solera II

 

That is interesting !!....Let me have a try at this one and ill come back to you

 

I just go for clean volume increase

I don't know about what You lot are looking for to do it but I find the one with the most frequency bands going to indevidual compressors get the cleanest and loudest before dirtying the sound.

Currently its Waves L316 I think (sorry not useing a computer with softwear so I can't check). It has something like 16 frequency bands.

Once a multi-band compressor comes out with more bands, and isn't emulating analogy tecnology, I'll change to that.


When you think about it what We're all waiting for is a multi-band compressor, that has a indevidual compressor for each frequency.
Like a full fourier analysis, followed by a huge set of compressors and then good quality digital suming.
That would give you almost infinate loudness with little distortion, till it's nearly all one level that is.

 

I know you guys are talking about VSTs but for best results a mastering has to be done using hardware...
with hardware you can somewhat be in the red and yet it sounds good...actually that's where the magic happens!lol
..well you see what I mean...which is rarely (not to say never) the case with digital plug-ins, no matter how expensive
or good they are.
So to really solve your problem you need a "real" comp/hardware..no more no less.

 

right now, with a proper descent mix i can easily achieve a master that sound as Loud as a commercial track

And to be honest, with proper dynamic treatment , it sound as loud ( maybe even louder ) then commercial tracks....and you wont ear much distortion ( yes ok, the 1k - 3k are harsh ) but still.... All with software

Throw me a mix with 4 to 10 db of head room and a reference and ill show you what i mean

 

Algorithmix Plugins Bundle

Dwonload:
http://depositfiles.com/files/aykt3lp4c

Official Page:
http://www.facebook.com/kimwestofficial

 

the h20 version doesn t store presets , but it s highly usable and real real better eq 'linear red and orange ' than most of the stuff i ve heard .

 

Here is where lysergyk is right....
You need to check it on and in every envrironment...
The tools for mastering are easy to obtain, but the ears and hardware and room is gonna be the issue.
I'll still recommend a real masterer (writing this right ?) to do this.

I know an engineer, who does the job so well, that his friend ( masterer ) has to do very little..
But that takes years and years and a lot of experience...
You can do things at home, but will it sound great in a (airplain's hangar )?.

Think about it....