If one wants to give away songs for free downloads ,song created with free software its al ok,but if one uses bought software as in w***z software to make music and give it away as free download can be caught with stuff like watermark or other stuff ? I mean not loops and samples but the music u create yourself with w***z software ! Thank u and a great day !

 

...or make money and buy the software afterwards !

 

Very few products use Watermarking and from what I understand they are all effects plugins like the Waves series. Eitherway it's the only way, not to mention don't expect too many people to care unless your making a lot of money from it, because it would cost more for the company to sue you then they'd ever get out of it.

There's always a solution. In this case if your that worried just buy your products or stay away from software that watermarks. In all honesty I wouldn't use a plugin that watermarks anyway. Because that watermark is there whether you have legit or warez which means their crap is ALWAYS on your music. Screw that, it's probably the most moronic business strategy ever...

 

What if you send your Audio through some analogue outboard before printing?

BTW how does the watermark remain intact through track summing?

 

You can't watermark audio. The only possible way to do so would be to encode a pattern into the lowest order bits - at or around the dither level. Anything else would be shockingly apparent on playback. If in doubt, use a freeware or inbuilt dither plug in the last stage of your master.

Some audio sample suppliers do individually watermark each production disc. The aim of this is to identify the buyer from whose disc any pirate copies were generated.

 

I wouldn't stress out or worry too much about that. Make some money first. Then you can hire lots of attorneys if you need them.

 

The man who handles the cowbell is always right...

 

a thing u can do is use warez during the whole work process,and eventually,when u re satisfied of the result,u can take note off al the presets,cancel the warez and master everything with the trial version if it s fully functional

 

There is NO way.. any software company can check every musical release..if they cant check them all, then why check any?

I don't believe there is a SINGLE case of someone making it big, making some money off their music.. and a software company catching them using their warez'd software on a track.

Its all nonsense, designed and implemented for one reason.. to make people paranoid.

 

What Zenarcist saids gave me an idea.

The watermarks are in the ultra low and ultra high.
This is so you can't hear them.

If you play your song out and record in on analogy equipment that removes or can't hold the ultra low and ultra high, e.g. a tape machine, the watermark will be removed or at least damaged beyond use.

I guess it would work with proper filters and stuff but why go through that bother when Dolby NR B and C remove the frequencies to prevent noise.

It's just an idea. Someone will find fawlt with it

 

Actually it's pretty impressive how it works. The watermark consists of slight variations in the audio frequencies, distributed throughout the audio track. The modified frequencies are audible, but blend into the overall sound and are virtually indistinguishable to the human ear. The watermark is in the sound itself and not reliant upon digital encoding; it will exist even if you record from an analog source (external speaker, etc.). It will exist if you resample the audio, change the tempo, modify the duration, or other digital editing. Changing the audio in these ways will cause "static" in the watermark, but it is still recognizable and decipherable. Unless you really change the overall sound (like using low-quality resampling), the watermark will exist. Let's say I make a watermark that's a Beep every other second. No matter how you play it, you'll always hear it, even if you try to put it on tape machine the beeps will still be there.

 

You can always tell who believed in fairys and Father Crimbo

 

And as I said someone found a fawlt with it.


So what would happen if I removed random frequencies.
For example frequencies that are multiples of 11, so 11Hz 22Hz 33Hz ......333Hz...5555Hz....11111Hz 22222Hz..ect

Since they are all of differant keys the harmonics should stop removeing tham from damaging the overall sound, but one of them has to take a chunk out of the watermark?

Once the water make is malformed in any way, They can no longer say they put it there as it's not an exsact mach and may just be coinserdence.



I got the feeling that I'm looking for a soulution to a problem that dosen't need solving

 

Ok so making music with """payd''' software gets us were since we can be caught,and my question is what to do with the music created this way !

 

Do what you like with it.

The company who made the softwear will only care if you make millions.
If You have nothing they'll never try and get anything from you.

 

So even if you buy the software/samples/loops you culd still have the whatermark so what is the difference is there one kind for the ones bought and other kind for the pirated one ? U all have a great weekend !

 

Oh and another thing,if one buys and the other does not buy , but both do songs with the software/samples/loops how can the company tell witch song uses bought or not bought bought ! Thats the question !