Hackintosh: Dangers?

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  1. J Addison

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    Hi everyone, just curious is their any dangers (Hardware wise) in running a Hackintosh? I feel like if I do something wrong, it could break my computer somehow. The reason I ask this is I decided to turn my gaming pc into a hackintosh today, well duel boot Windows for gaming on 1 hdd and and Mac OS on the other hdd for nothing but Music producing but I'm kind of freaked out that it's going to wreck something on my new computer.. Would I be better just duel booting Windows 7 for Music and learning a new Daw instead of risking it?

    My Specs
    Intel Core i7-7700 Kaby Lake Quad-Core 3.6 GH
    8 Gb DDR4 Ram (Upgrading that to 16 or 32gb in near future)
    250GB SSD and 1TB Harddrive
    Nvidia GTX 1070 OC
    Gigabyte H270-HD3 motherboard

    Now believe it or not that setup cost me a lot of money, well, to me anyway (Just the graphics card was $800 Nzd) so I think you guys can understand why it worries me. I really wouldn't want to stuff the mother board or frie my graphics card or something.. Thanks in advance
     
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  3. junh1024

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    Sounds reasonable

    And then what's the other OS?

    Also Sounds reasonable. But what's ur current DaW?

    Unlikely. Worst you'll prolly run in is drivers & incompatibility, or at worse, a bricked Mac boot.

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    NB: I was on mac for a few years, racked up a number of GB & logic projects, now trying to migrate to Reaper for PC. Wynaut have your gaming OS be your DAW os too?
     
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    Thank you for your response :)
    Currently using logic on my mbp, although my mac has decent specs (i7 and 16 gb ram) it's not really as future proof as a hackintosh which is one of the reasons i wanted to make one. Thought about switching to Ableton or reaper but heard the learning curve in reaper is steep.

    Currently using Windows 10 Pro for my gaming os but heard it not really the best for Music. I was thinking of making a windows 7 duel boot, no internet, dedicated to music and see if that helps with the latency problems im having on Windows 10 and audio freezes with asio4all. Never had any of these problems on my mac, thats using the the same Audio Interface too.
     
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    Right, once a mac breaks, you're generally SoL.

    Logic is a traditional DAW. Ableton does have an arrange view, but the session view is a completely different paradigm (or it can be), which is hard to get my head around, and never really dove into it. Live is not a traditional DAW.

    Conversely, reaper is a traditional DAW. Once you tell yourself it IS a traditional DAW, you'll feel right at home. There's a arranger, mixer board, and MIDI clips expand to a piano roll.

    With ableton, I felt like I needed the tutorial 2 show me the ropes, with R, i just gradually used it more & more with no initiall tut.

    By all means, give both a spin, and see how u feel.

    You'll may hear how W7 is "better for audio" , but may actually have GUI-related , and not audio-related claims.

    If you care about audio latency, have a look
    [​IMG]

    via https://pcaudiolabs.com/windows-10-for-pro-audio/

    ALSO, W8+ have tickless kernel [ https://arstechnica.com/information...-on-the-inside-under-the-hood-of-windows-8/2/ ] so most things will take up 10%~+ less CPU/power , meaning faster overall. U can try/use W8.

    I'm not really sure where you're "hearing things" from, but perhaps have a 2nd take on your source .
     
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    I'm running rock-solid hackintosh - gotta admit it took me roughly a year to finetune, optimize and learn things (as I pretty much needed to learn OSX itself, different DAW, plenty new plugins etc..)
    specs of my hackintosh as of today:
    Core i7-5820K, overclocked to 4.3GHz on all cores
    Noctua NH-U14S, usually idling at around 300rpm, so in case fan stop spinning I don't need to worry about overheating
    Kingston HyperX Fury Black 32GB 2666MHz (4x8GB kit)
    ASUS X99-S, bios 3701 (03/31/2017), all fan speeds set customized within BIOS
    Samsung 850 EVO 500GB (sata)
    EVGA GTX 980 Ti Classified
    RME HDSPe AIO
    EVGA G2 750W psu, 80+Gold rated
    Fractal Design Define R5 (version without side window), stock fans, plus one additional 140mm fan from my older Fractal Design Node 304
    Presonus FaderPort
    ROLI Seaboard RISE 49
    DELL U2713HM, 27" 1440p IPS monitor
    Presonus Eris E8 studio monitors
    Roccat Ryos MK Glow
    some ancient Gigabyte GM-AC mouse
    MacOS(X) El Capitan 10.11.6
    I'm using Reaper as it's best multiplatform DAW available right now, so transition from Windows to MacOS(X) was smooth for me
     
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    There's also Cubase & S1 btw.
     
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    There is no danger at all, heck these days it is easier to install macOS on PC Hardware than keeping Windows 10 running properly.
    I have 2 separate SSD and I use both, windows 10 and macOS Sierra.

    Negative aspects of running macOS on PC Hardware:
    • not 100% legal in all countries
    • ethic issue
    • sometimes it is hard to explain what kind of Mac you have when reporting bugs
     
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    That fancy apple bag is the most stylish product he showed. :rofl:
     
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    Normally very informative Rick Beato is on a rant.
    Fanciest is a box that slowly closes......very elegant.
     
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    The biggest danger of a hackintosh is spending months trying to make one because you think it'll help your music production somehow. Efficiency? Stability? Plugin selection?

    Efficiency? Don't spend more time looking for kexts and reinstalling software when you already have a working system (Windows). Stability? Well, you're running a HACKED version of an OS when you've already got an unaltered OEM OS (Windows, again). Plugin selection? Ha ha ha. Windows by a mile.

    People just want to run hackintosh because it's trendy and think it will win them cool points or because Apple is seen as more legitimate for arty types. Almost like why people want ProTools so badly. It won't help your music, but people think it'll make them more "legit" as an artist.

    Maybe that doesn't truly apply to the OP, but Reaper isn't that hard to learn. I mean, Logic was always known as the mind-breaker back in the day, so I can't see Reaper as any more difficult. I think it's really intuitive, personally.
     
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    If you choose compatible hardware you dont need any kext beside FakeSMC and one for the network card.
    There is even a step by step guide
    macOS runs without ANY modification or Hack of it ?!
    People want macOS because it has many advantages (usability wise) over Windows.

    macOS Sierra even supports Radeo Graphic Cards out of the box without installing any driver as you would need under Windows ...
     
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    Thats exactly why people prefer non branded Apple Hardware. Apple is driving people away by its own stupidity
     
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    If you have to ask questions like this you probably shouldn't be trying to do it.. the only danger is not doing it right and you never get it working correctly..
     
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    That can be a big "if". If you know what you're doing. If you select the proper hardware. If you're a system builder. If you have the $$ and aren't trying to convert a pre-built system as the OP happens to be doing.

    But, hey, people have to decide these things for themselves. If someone wants to jump through extra hoops so they can have an "audio rig" that's seen as more worthy (in their eyes) then have at -- no skin off my nose. I don't have any problem with OSX, Windows, Linux, OSx86, or otherwise, I just think people are usually kidding themselves about the importance.

    And just for the record, yes, I've built multiple OSx86 machines, so I do have an informed opinion about this. This is 2017 and not the Windows ME era, so I don't know why people think Windows 7 without a whole bunch of needless crap and dodgy VSTs is unstable or low-performance.

    Not really any harm in trying though, if you've got the time and a spare HDD, so I guess that ends the debate, as that's up to the OP to weigh.
     
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    My friend who also makes music, has a mac. And he always talking that macs are better, that the osx is better than the win, that
    he have never had latency problems, that his cpu never goes to 100% so I have decided to make a test, is osx better in cpu handling than win.
    So I have build myself a hackintosh on the notebook that I am making music on.

    And it is the same. Plugins are eating the cpu and ram on osx and win the same.

    When you are buying a mac you buy good hardware by default. We are sparing on parts when we are buying a win pc.
    We can buy 5 times better hardware if we choose windows for the same price or even cheaper.

    But, I am using that hackintosh, osx is prettier than windows, boot much faster and it's cool to have it.
     
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    as I've been using windows for 2 decades, IT support for huge companies and individuals (both software and hardware),
    I can easily say Windows is way inferior to MacOS(X) in EVERY way you can think of,
    being able to compare Windows 7/10 vs MacOS(X) side by side on exact same hardware, the difference is HUGE
     
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    the biggest danger is bill gates, he'll rise from his grave to haunt you for the rest of your life

    or eat your brain or something
     
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    You mean Steve Jobs? Bill Gates is still with us.
     
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