From their FAQ:
"Q: Are you guys asswholes
A: Not at all, Infact we level headed persons and injoy a good laugh.
Too many groups have their head stuck up their ass as if they are better then everyones else,
Why this is the case.. I guess years of email beggin for releases will get to a person lol"

If (I say IF) that is R2R's log and they wrote the FAQ then it is all very clear. Sure, maybe the do not love if people ask for stuff in a public forum a la "Mac please", but beggers is clearly not the reason they slowed down with the releases. They actually state that they think groups taking beggers too seriously have their heads stuck up their asses.


That should be food for thought to elitists that attack every single request or vigorously fight every single criticism towards R2R. They themselves obviously think other groups are too serious about that stuff.

I always thought R2R were much better sports than people around here policing and bashing peoples heads in if someone dare to mention R2R without excessive praise . R2R does not seem to want to have people with their heads up their asses defending them. That is food for thought to some people here that act all fanatically about what should or not should be written about them, as they were their guardians. The reason they slowed down public releases according to themselves were lack of supplies from people. And while they do not like people making money from their releases, they think people and groups excessively critizing some ungrateful beggers not represenative for the rest of the thankful public should pull their heads out their asses. Finally that has been made clear.

That FAQ makes me respect and like R2R even more. (If it is an actual FAQ of R2R of course. If it is not, scrap all I said in this post.)

 

We already scrap everything you say. When they invite you into our circle and I see your name there, only will I believe anything you say concerning the scene. Although this will never happen, you already made too much noise and a few of us are looking at you. Until then we just laugh at you (privately in other places) So please just stop making a fool of yourself. Us l33tz are the ones who power the scene and buy/supply the retails you are fiending for. Remember? Cars wont run without gas. We got eachother on speed dial (Private). Not random copy and paste posts on a (public I might add) forum. Try looking for the nfos from their previous 2 groups before R2R. And see one of the reasons they shut down shop before. IJS

So on that note, post some of your music.... Lets see how much work you have done with our work.

 

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They talk about other groups, not about requesters. Why the heck do you absolutely want to be the ventriloquist of R2R's wishes ?
R2R is a group btw, with individuals who probably don't all think the same thing about the matter of request, leechers and all that crap. If they even care about all that. Maybe they have a life of their own and they don't spend their entire wake time speculating about the drama at AS and AZ. At least I hope for them.
Obviously the requests are useless, the problem isn't only about if R2R is offended by them or not, but what's the point in requesting things when it's been established - by R2R themselves btw - that R2R would release all the things every one dream of : if a: they could crack all things, which isn't the case. They published an NFO to established just that. b : people provided more. They can't crack what they can't get access to.
So the request matter isn't a netiquete or an ethic matter, it's a problem of efficiency. Nothing will get released because of a request. Things will get released because they are being provided and crackable.
If people want to make requests they need to make it to each others so that people buy stuffs and provide.
From that perspective it is offending to R2R. People are requesting things from them - and de facto blaming them for not releasing those - when they cannot provide anything without OUR help.
They didn't slow down on the release, we slowed down with providing to them. It's our responsability, and if requests may not make them mad, it will surely not solve any matter at all. Providing will.
Requests to R2R are very chilldish. They lead nowhere.

PS :and I'm not an insider or whatever. I don't know any people, I've never been close to anygroup.
I can't crack obviously, I don't know any code...I can use them and make music, and I try to bring my own share to the cause with my small means, we all know how and we can do that.
But I've read every damn NFO every groups made on those matters and they've made the situation very clear.

 

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Theres only about 25 or so suppliers keeping the whole scene alive right now. @Mykal already laid it out for this guy, but he refuses to believe anything but himself, with out of context copy and paste blurbs

 

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That is what i am saying, lack of suppliers. Not some insignificant beggers. Is your head stuck? If that is the FAQ of R2R why would you not take it to heart?

 

LOL There is nobody around to hack things, so they can change the keygen, and take the credit. Seriously, when have you ever seen them hack anything that someone else didn't do first? You should cry for the loss of Team Assign, because they are the only reason that R2R was around as long as they were, soaking up the praise.

 

RIP Team ASSiGN

Their acronym was the coolest too. All Software Spread Into Global Networks

 

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What are you even on about. Are you not aware of the people here bashing peoples heads in here because of a request made in the wrong place? What I am saying is that it to me seemed redicoulous to believe that R2R slowed down releases because of beggers in these forums... When they slowed down very, very few were begging about stuff around here anyway. Now I also quoted what according to Subgenre is R2R FAQ and what R2R thinks about groups that takes things like beggers too seriously. Read it for yourself. It is not I who says this it is the view if R2R. I do not promote begging or requests, but that obviously is not why they slowed down. What are you disagreeing with me about?

 

Huh, according to who? Stop that nonsense. I stand alone, as do you. I know we will have another laugh about it tho. Lemme screen shot this for fb

 

R2R says they do not like groups who got their heads up their asses? I agree with them. "A few of us are looking at you" lol... You are not speaking for R2R that is very much sure now.

 

Why don't you use qouting? Your post makes no sense otherwise.

 

...makes perfect sense to me,.... reads like a newspaper. I only use quoting if it isnt the adjacent post

 

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Well first it's just a channel of communication for the releases. I don't think what you're quoting are R2R words. And the part that you quote, well I leave you to your interpretation of it, but I don't think it refers at all to requesters. Just to the fact that there is this channel of communication available, which is a good way to stay informed about the releases, and thus not dl fakes. It's not something that was always done, the scene used to be more mysterious and only accessible to a few. You couldn't get infos about the releases then, like that. In the FAQ, there is also written : "do you guys crack? ". And the answer is "No". So I doubt it's R2R talking.
But more importantly it says if you want to help you need to provide to the groups.
Requesting on a audio forum that isn't a place made for request is the last thing they have in mind (but there is a request section on the sister site...Why don't they use it to request ? Maybe because they know no one will read amongs the groups....), probably because it's a very odd thing to do.
It's a free forum with simple rules, people can make requests although it's pointless, and people can respond to them that their requests are a waste of time and space and that they are in the wrong forum to do it.
It's all fair as long as people do it without being insulting.
Don't bring the groups into all that stuff.

 

Last time I checked suppliers and asci artist and loader music creators were also affiliates/group members. Wait that wasnt in the FAQ or nfo so I must be mistaken and completely wrong then. derp.... I guess they just gave me group/scene access for the hell of it. Just cause Im some random dude.

 

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You simply make no sense at all actually. It is not clear at all what you actually do not agree with whatsoever. You do not even seem on topic. Your objective seems to be to argue for the sake of argueing and to make personal
attacks, quite childish actually. I do not mind having a discussion with you but you seem to have another goal.

 

This guy is too much looking for an official doctrine for a warez group, This is too funny.

 

Stop your passive aggressive taunting please. We all have had enough of it

 

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I guess we agree why R2R slowed down, so...

 

Stop telling me how and what to write. And stop the personal attacks.

 

People like you are killing the scene period. Roll that in your nfo and smoke it