Mr. Schoeps can say whatever he wants but I really like the nicely messed up sound of resampled VSTis through any outboard hardware or even just doing a ADDA loop. I do all kinds of shit like that. However, I'm into "classical industrial" , you know. Of course, when I produce real classical stuff, that I sometimes do and love, I'm focused on clarity. However, I prefer fucked up sound in a nice way... it's just my thing. :P

Pop actually sounds more fucked up these days to me than any of my hardest-core industrial recordings. In a bad way, I mean. It's just insane this loudness war.

 

Check it out. @Von_Steyr @digitaldragon

Charly sounds good to my ears (love the 90s hair metal too) and its free

 

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Airwindows plugins are all too static. He only uses saturation to emulate hardware. Complete emulation would include noise and small random shifts of frequencies and phases. As I said, there aren't many plugins that give you real analogue emulation. They generally just give you emulated saturation and that's not nearly enough.

 

I have a funny feeling that charly will find its way onto all my groups/mix busses like real summing. He was just using on the master to demonstrate it.

 

Impressed with Charlie the most in the video.
Will test this winner tomorrow, definitely a keeper.

 

Unfortunately for me I don't believe in IRs as they can only replicate frequency response, no dynamics and no noise, random frequency and phase non-linearities. So no Charly for me. Still waiting for more better analogue emulations.

 

sorry charly, lol couldn't resist

 

I'm thinking about going the summing mixer route, leaning towards the A-Designs Mix Factory (2 of them) to replace my console. Check it out it's a pretty sweet box!

http://www.adesignsaudio.com/mix factory.htm

 

@subGENRE charly is a good one man \m/ picked it up off the Z wen it was first released.... the way i use it is drive it and use somthing to pull the level back down for summing a mix >>> but if im pushing it into a limiter or clipping i dont worry bout it ;) i use Charly on the master channel in Harrison Mixbus alot... I Route all my channels from Cubase or Sonar into Mixbus channels then group them in their buses to use light saturation on the buses in Mixbus >>>off to the Master in Mixbus with maybe an EQ or 3 on it + Charly then render... then ill master into my Mastering Chain outboard most of the time = glue city lol... doing it this way i almost never use a mixbus compressor anymore while mixing cause i dont need it \m/ But just like anything else in mixing i change up my mixing needs for what i think the material calls for... one song may get alot of processing and another may not need much of anything but Charly and mixbus is a great in the Box alternative to a outboard summing box i get great results with them both>>> try driving charly pretty heavy then use a gain plugin to pull the volume down and if you really wana drive your summing use 2 instances of Charly one to drive it home and the second one to back off the gain haha \m/ Prime studio makes good stuff too its pretty much AA plugs but they have some great ones i purchase one of their EQs i liked it so much ;) EDIT i almost never use any input volume on any Digital limiter because in outboard im always using the output volume from an EQ or hardware limiter to push into my converters >>> so the level going into any ITB clipper or Limiter is coming from the output gain of the plug befor it \m/ most times that is charly and then AA Coral mastering pre on 10 and output up >>>then Limiter /Clipper

 

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I was thinking that. Having recently discovered Charly, and having a look at their products, I'm surprised Prime Studio plugins haven't surfaced on the sister site at all as they seem to look and sound top notch from the selected videos I've looked at. They seem like great 'under the radar' plugins that many people don't seem to talk about but definitely should.

 

I dont know if my meager pc can handle all that. Im usually teetering on the edge of high CPU with one DAW and all my mixing plugs. Id probably bounce all the tracks out and do it as a seperate session in mixbus. You got me intrigued now. I will have to try it out. Thanks for the insight my man!

 

Most amateur audio engineers, with a little practice, can get their mixes to 90-95% of professional records with reasonably priced gear. To get that extra 5% you need to spend tens of thousands of dollars on overpriced outboard gear like the studios do. Frankly the average listener won't even notice this extra 5%, only other highly skilled audio engineers will, so IMHO it really isn't worth it to invest in over hyped hardware like summing mixers.

As a side note ... when you watch a video of a well known producer/audio engineer using a particular piece of gear and praising it, it is very likely that they were paid to endorse that particular product. Try not to be manipulated by unscrupulous marketers trying to sell you things you do not need!

 

@MMJ2017
Hey, what are you doing with my avatar ???
That's plagiarism !!!

 

Surprisingly there are some who disregard the fundamental and simple way to create space ITB or out = lower the input and raise the output.

 

I always gain stage my input... i use output gain for volume

 

i started with mixbus that way brother \m/ Bouncing and loading into mixbus is a great way to do things ;) if coming from another DAW into Mixbus most of my tracks are froze before leaving my main DAW \m/ i just do it this way to save time now ;)>>> if its something of my own im working on i do the bounce and load method \m/

 

Very interesting thread, something that I am thinking about for a while...

So, if I were to use one of those summing boxes, I presume I would need an interface with a bunch of ANALOG ins and outs, right?

I have RME HDSPe AIO, and in the specification for the card says "up to 18 inputs and 20 outputs can be used simultaneously!"

I am not sure what all of those channels are, but all I have with the breakout cable are 2 analog ins and 2 outs. So, i guess I would need a new interface, right?

 

I mean, if this is legit, it's a huge difference!

 

I agree, huge difference.