What is real and not? (aka ATHESIM vs THEISM) (CLOSED)

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are you atheist or theist?

Poll closed Nov 17, 2017.
  1. theist

    30.8%
  2. atheist

    53.8%
  3. in between: for example: Taoism/buddhism (god-less religions)

    9.9%
  4. Both

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Divided by

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. "i don't know" + " i donm't know" + " idon't know" = God, souls, afterlife

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. I don't have the free will to answer this becuase i am a fictional charactor

    1.1%
  8. the universe is a video game created by an alien

    2.2%
  9. Vegan

    2.2%
  1. MMJ2017

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    maybe you missed that

    do you think Einstein job was to be interested and to work everyday in the filed of mere illusion?

    that there are textbooks in mere illusion?
    that we can build computers or cars or bridges from mere illusion?
    if you want to learn how plants grow, that a book on mere illusion will give satisfying results?
    if you want to be great at calculus mere illusion is all you need to know?
     
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    "I just posted two images and a quote from THIRD PARTY sites."


    and in the act of doing this did you present a sentence in isolation from its context?



    "If you cannot distinguish between those two I'm afraid I cannot help you.."

    distinguish between which two?
    afraid of what?
    help me do what?


    "What I'm saying is bring the quotes of the relevant book where Heisenberg states otherwise and go sue those THIRD PARTY sites..."


    I don't follow, what you mean about quotes and sueing , and third party sites?

    are you under the impression that when Heisenberg writes any sentence ever, that it is never the case some are connected to form a train of thought about a complex topic?

    in other words do you think it is possible to remove a sentence out of a paragraph , for which the entire paragraph ,or page o,r chapter includes all the information which is being talked about,
    present it is isolation as if it was formulated that way , ( it is missing 99 percent of information)
    and have the result IDENTICAL to if Heisenberg originally wrote as sentence in isolation?
     
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    I cannot help you with that...
     
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    I cannot help you with that either...
     
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    to "translate" the quote into "regular" language.

    when we use mathematics to describe the universe , it is not the actual universe we are talking about in question, but we are thinking about our mathematical concept of it.

    translation to VERY simple words.

    there is a difference between what we imagine things to be and the way they actually are.


    translation to as simple as possible without changing the meaning

    our imagination ain't reality.
     
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    help me in which way ?
    what is that?

    how do you help someone with that?

    i dont know what " with that" is sir.

    its perfect make a picture with yourself and the quote "WITH THAT"

    dood , it will go VIRAL!
     
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    It's not mine quote but Heisenberg's and talked about everything you read in it!

    Isn't that clear too???

    For a theist like me the Absolute Truth is only the God as Jesus boldly declared!

    For an atheist there is no absolute truth and rightly so but sadly this leads to the absence of Objective Reality that disturbs all the atheists!
    Cherry picking is not a good thing after all...
     
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    You feel the need for..."translation" but I don't.

    I'll stick with the original...
     
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    I was kindly trying to demonstrate that you didn't fathom what it said.

    besides I cant help you with that


    psssssshahahaha
     
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    You are a funny guy MMJ2017 after all...
     
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    "
    Jim Stratos
    You feel the need for..."translation" but I don't.

    I'll stick with the original..."



    that's what SHE said.........................





    about the Bible.
     
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    How can you understand what I "fathom"?

    a) by "translating" a cherry pick quote as you accused me some minutes ago, or

    b) by JUST posting an image from a THIRD PARTY site and neither commenting nor "translating" on that???

    YOU embraced the quote you have rejected as a cherry pick and YOU felt the need to "translate" it.

    I JUST posted the image and YOU are arguing about my..."fathom"???

    Post by post it's getting even better!
     
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    The pleasure is all mine!
    You just keep posting and leave everything else on me!
     
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    you keep bringing up good points i like this!


    "How can you understand what I "fathom"?"

    I meant it as a figure of speech , when you posted a picture with words saying something, but you acted in your comments like it meant something different. ( maybe it was humor instead?)



    "a) by "translating" a cherry pick quote as you accused me some minutes ago, or"

    that was in reference to my above comment i was describing what it said, because you acted like it said a different thing



    "b) by JUST posting an image from a THIRD PARTY site and neither commenting nor "translating" on that???"

    that was to go with the joke. :D



    "YOU embraced the quote you have rejected as a cherry pick and YOU felt the need to "translate" it."

    you commented in a way which communicated that you thought it meant something different than it does.
    the actual meaning of the quote ties into this topic's meaning



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    I JUST posted the image and YOU are arguing about my..."fathom"???"

    you posted an image with a sentence , proceeded to describe what you perceived it to mean. However, what it said what something different than your comment communicated that it meant.

    so fathom was meant as a figure of speech to describe those events occurring.
     
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    Which was my sentence(s)/comment(s) you are talking about that accompanied/referred to the image funny guy?

    Can you show it(them) to us or give us the link(s) of the post(s) you are referring to?
     
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