Izotope Neutron Updated to 1.01

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  1. Cav Emp

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    ...at long last. Didn't see this posted here at a glance, so I thought I'd share in case any of you have been waiting for this like I have. I just checked it in one particularly large project and it seems it has significantly reduced performance issues, especially with CPU spikes in Cubase 9. It's still not super lightweight, but it's at least not weighing my projects down.

    Neutron Release Notes
    Version 1.0.1 released January 18, 2017
    Improvements/Features:
    CPU Optimizations

    • Up to 20% performance improvement when Masking Meter is enabled and Neutron’s user interface is closed
    • Up to 11% performance improvement when using Neutron’s EQ user interface
    Gain Trace Meter

    • Addressed occasional rendering issues with the Gain Trace meter in the Compressor and Transient Shaper
    Accessibility

    • Improved compatibility with Apple’s VoiceOver mode to increase accessibility for blind and low-vision users
    Fixes

    • Fixed issue where Neutron failed to recognize unicode characters in file paths, which caused features and presets to be inaccessible
    • Fixed issue related to the above where the Track Assistant would hang instead of classifying within 10 seconds
    • Fixed issue where Neutron saved settings incorrectly in FL Studio
    • Addressed occasional audio playback issue when using Track Assistant in FL Studio
    • Addressed occasional issue where the EQ curve and node icons would display incorrectly
    • Fixed issue where channel count label spacing was sometimes incorrect in certain 5.1, 7.0 and 7.1 formats
    • Addressed some niche installation errors on Windows 7 and 10
    • Updated Neutron Help Manual: now even more helpful!
    • Other miscellaneous bug fixes, optimizations and improvements
    • Plus: addressed some critical performance issues that will benefit users of Cakewalk’s SONAR
     
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  3. Kwissbeats

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    This makes it worth re-trying in fl studio
     
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    Tbh the only reason it was usable for me is because I'm running it with a skylake chip. I understand you may have had even bigger issues than that in FL, which blows. Imagine buying it and discovering that. I really, really like it for tracking vocals. Everything is right there and sounds pretty decent. But until now I'd switch off all the modules except EQ during mixing. Just too much CPU hit for a channel strip, and the CPU spikes in Cubase were a nightmare. Despite that I really like their support (I always get the same guy, Lars, who is really cool and helpful) I was getting a little annoyed at how long it was taking them to release an update to a prohibitively buggy plugin that is otherwise really good. I'm glad it's finally here

    Edit: one thing that is to be seen is whether it is better with Live now. I don't use it as much in producing, but Live would crash while loading projects with Neutron in it, so I basically stopped using it altogether in Live. When I wrote to support, both Ableton and Izotope basically gave me a big fat :dunno:
     
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    Quick question. Could you use this instead of Ozone for mastering?
     
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    Hi Newbie here :bow:
    I have installed Neutron Advanced from......the todays release...
    The "nfo" says
    Run Plugin and authorize with iLok option
    1. Must i create an account on the iLok Page ?
    2. Must i have an internet connection to activate Neutron ?
    3. or can someone explain which steps i must process to run this plugin
    Thank you in advance
    Step 0 to 3 is no problem here
    :bow:
     
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    You could but in my opinion it's not as useful for mastering. No M/S EQ, no imager, no maximizer, etc. It's nice but it's definitely more a channel strip than a mastering suite.

    @cEvin Key better to ask that over on the sister site where you downloaded it. I've got no idea
     
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    Of course, even though it is a channel strip, you can break all the rules and use it for Mastering. Maybe your track will sound unique :wink:


    You have to install ilok manager. Thats it. Just install and restart your pc. No need to even open that licence manager. But remember to replace the patch files. When you load the plugin when all the steps are complete, you will see the authorize button. Just click it and you are good to go.
     
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    Yeah cheers guys. I just used Neutron on my mastering strip, then used ozone after for the other modules needed (or use the seperate modules). L2 to limit and voila. Worked really well!
     
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    All I needed to see was performance/bug fixes esp. within Sonar.
    The only thing I had noticed was that sometimes Track Assist would never complete. It seems to do the analysis in stages, starting with the EQ, then compression, then exciter. When Track Assist exhibited this bug, it wouldn't even make it through the eq stage. I would stop playback, close and reopen the GUI, and restart playback and it usually worked on the second try. Also noticed that the CPU hit is much greater with the GUI opened vs GUI closed.

    Some have told me not to use this as it's regarded to be something like EZMix. I do like to run it, and let the track assist do it's thing just to see where it ends up. I usually end up turning off the compression and exciter as I'll use other plugs for that anyways. The most helpful thing has been the masking meters, when they work.
    After trying it on lots of different tracks, it seems like it makes the same cuts and boost dependent on the recognition mode. Eg. if it recognized the track as a percussive track, it would have the same eq curve on a kick as it had on a snare. Anyone else seen this?

    I have plugged this into the 2 bus just to see what it would come up with, but didn't really see it as being superior or more helpful than anything else I've been doing, and I've since moved my 2 bus processing to hardware.
     
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    Still haven't used this one, but am interested in giving it a spin. I think a lot of people are just slapping this on every track and hoping for some kind of instant magic shortcut -- I still don't think anything's going to replace decent (manual) tracking and mixing skills. I'd probably end up using this on problematic tracks that I couldn't fix any other way.

    There was a time back in the early aughts where I used to rip CD tracks that featured isolated instruments like lead electric guitars, bass or certain drums pieces, grab their EQ profile with Arboretum's Ionizer and match EQ to similar tracks in my own projects. Sometimes, it worked out and sometimes, it didn't (a lot of it had to do with inherent similarities between the source track and the target track). I could never actually make it happen for a whole mix, mainly because it's so hard to replicate all the elements of a commercial mix versus whatever mix you're doing in a DAW. You could map the EQ, but there's too many other variables.

    I think the only way for a plug like this to work would be if you had a whole DAW that was set up that way, from tracking to mixing to mastering. Once your elements were all recorded, the DAW would analyze what the tracks were, what level to set them at, how much time-based effects to mix in, where to pan, how much compression and EQ to add, and what to add and how much to add in the mastering chain. Once the automated mix was set up, you could then either lock it or tweak it to your liking, then have the DAW re-examine the entire mix to tweak the mastering chain (or allow you to do it manually). I imagine we're probably a long way away from something like that, but it seems to me that this would be the only way to truly get a "near commercial mix" if you were the sort of person who needed the assist. Or if you were more of a composer than a mixer.
     
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    Yeah to be honest I tried it out and used the auto function and it honestly improved it.. magically haha. Obviously tweaked with it a little to my liking but the result of the auto function is pretty amazing. I've started to bounce tracks with decent mixing on and need to master it quickly to send to songwriters etc... so this is pretty good for a quick thing. I've only used it on one track so yeah... Still good for quick mastering/mixing.
     
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    I'll definitely be trying it out. My main concern is that it'll turn out to be another EZMix/EZMix 2, where the preset processing makes it sound different, but not necessarily better.
     
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    Yeah I totally understand. Like the days when I put mastering presets on and all it did was make it louder and I thought, wow, this sounds 10x better! haha
     
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    That sounds exactly like how I reacted the first time I ran a mix through T-RacKs. I was like "Wow, it sounds so loud and ANALOG ...!!!"
     
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