pannig the Hi-hat left or right ?

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  1. 30hz

    30hz Producer

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    Hi there !
    in which side do you pan the hi-hat ?
    from the perspective of the drummer (left) or from the perspective of the listener (right) ?
    thx bye
     
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  3. Willum

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    Either, its your choice.
     
  4. Kwissbeats

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    my drummer is walking/running from the left side to the right side 8 times in a bar :rofl:
     
  5. jayxflash

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    when I make tracks aimed at big crowds of drummers, left panning. when mixing tracks aimed at general crowd, right.
     
  6. AwDee.0

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    depends, but it doesn't matter. for me its all about how i want it to be perceived: audience or in the band.?.
     
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  7. subGENRE

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    My deciding factor on any pan is the balance of the mix and where I have the other elements panned. I just try to keep it even and not too heavy on one side or the other. The average listener doesnt care, they only notice it if its too much on one side or the other.
     
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  8. tulamide

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    Don't want to complicate things, but are you aware of left-handed drummers who would have their hi-hat on the right, which would be left for the listener? (I don't even start mentioning the famous one-armed drummer Rick Allen of Def Leppard...)
     
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  9. studio5599

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    Best place would be in the Center
     
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  10. 30hz

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    in that case you can't wrong :)

    owever, for clarity I was referring when you mix a track in the studio I do not refer to a live concert
     
  11. tulamide

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    Yes, I understood that. But that doesn't change anything. A left-handed drummer would probably protest if you'd mix his drums not the way he played them. In general, if you want "real" drums to appear in your track, it is less important where the hi-hat is panned, but more important to keep the structure of the whole drumset. The toms, for example would also be mirror-inverted for a left-handed drummer, as would be the crash, etc.

    Keep the drumset structure intact to sound real. The left or right question is then just a matter of taste. The very first "stereo" recordings were done in the simplest of ways. They ran bass and drums all to the left and everything else on the right. And nobody complained :)
     
  12. 0on3

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    here'z a idea for ya , I learned this a long time ago , back in early 70'z for panning trix.
    (this has been my goto method for years.)

    "Give a listen to "The Rain Song" / led Zep ; (Do it thru head phones !!)
    It'll turn your world upside/insideout !! ...... pure and simple magik how this
    album was mixed , and the drums are just breath taking , which you will hear in the 'panning' efx !


    njoy !
     
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  13. Iggy

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    Depends on how you're panning the rest of the kit (crash to the right, hats to the right and vice-versa). But there's no set rules, unless you're trying to lay out a traditional kit from the drummer's perspective or the audience's. Also, if you had your drum kit laid out a certain way and recorded stereo room mics (and overheads, if they're picking up the hats), you're a bit stuck in where your hat will be positioned.
     
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    I have heard hats in the center before as a creative decision

    Who knew "Arthur" could tickle the ivorys like that?!
     
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  15. Von_Steyr

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    He was a really good pianist and comedian.I miss him very much.
    You have good taste bro.:yes:
     
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  16. black bounty

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    it's music, do whatever the f*** you want
     
  17. He was a very fine piano player. Did you realize that he had a club foot?
     
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  18. Von_Steyr

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    Had no idea.
    What did sadden me very much was the video i saw of his last years.He was suffering from PSP(progressive supranuclear palsy).
    He couldnt play the piano any more, which made him very upset and sad.
     
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  19. THENATAN

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    Hihat = Dead Center
    Kick = Hard Left
    Snare = Hard Right
    People Like Wierd Shits These Days
     
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    It's your choice. However, if you intend or hope to have it heard in large venues you should use the Haas method of panning so it remains equally weighted and audible on both sides.
     
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  21. eboe

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    I know that our member mr Spencer26 was working with the man an allso on that recording session as well, I think :)
    Cheers!
     
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