I've been wanting to really delve into BIAB for years, but never got around to it. My professor used it in college, but only to create lead sheets. And, I used to install it on occasion - only to never use it. Gonna give it a shot.

 

Nice post though. Yet music composed by AI doesn't get me warm at all. It's a bunch of code writing a bunch of new code, within a given palette instructed to have it come out a certain way. Big deal. Then there's Sony dollars behind it, who are partially responsible for the state the music industry is in today. Music is made and composed by us. Humans. Cars are made by robots. We struggle with emotion, tonality. We come up with something, then we let it go again. We can't get over a hump, or we don't know what to do after the bridge; transpose the chorus or not. Then we hear it, in our head and make it work. We sweat over it, laugh, cry over it. Maybe not, and just write it out in one go, smiling with every next note. We build in imperfections, to make it our own and give it that, well signature. We give it love and passion. We give it a piece of our soul. Thats why the Beatles are the Beatles, Bach is Bach and Monk will always be a handful. Unless the program passes the Turing test; eyes closed, It's just a clever trick. Sim sala bim. Human beings writing great poetry, dancing or composing music is way more than 'just a trick' It is who we truly are. How we evolved since the beginning of time. It defines us. These Arts define us. Always have always will.
Luiz.

 

I wish I could afford a marble headstone, large enough to fit that text, to ennoble my grave. That's almost poetry - and the truth. Period.

 

The Artificial Intelligence thing is bollocks.

To be true AI it needed to learn how to compose via a trial and error type system. SO at some point a human has said yay or nay.

I haven't read any articles on this Sony project but it's very difficult to do proper tests on AI when the test is an opinion.

Take the game pong. It's possible to code AI that learns as it plays. It knows when a mistake has been made due to the game being lost. It improves every game as it learns via it's AI, ala true AI. I've seen some really interesting AI programmed for computer games. take about 5 or 6 hours to be unplayable against average Human of same practice time.

To do music AI properly it'd need to be given the data on what humans actually thought about it...

AI 'in the style' of is kind of an oxymoron.

FWIW some of the algorithms in Band In a Box are very accurate when it comes to the style of individual players.

 

Absolutely agree, except for one thing ... there are human engineers who design car engines and automobile designers for the appearance and functionality of cars. I have yet to see a computer designing cars like Giorgetto Giugiaro. So no, there's no AI at the moment that can create anything original. These computers only copy what we tell them to.

 

... case in point

 

When the AI sucks:

 

Artistically? No way.

 

I guess no mater how much AI develops, as it surely will in the future, when we are talking about 'art' and specifically music in this case, I doubt it would ever match the expression of any Audiosex musician's human creative skill and imagination. I think therein lies the difference.


"Art is a personal act of courage, something one human does that creates change in another"

 

The Scientists (who work in the AI field) could not understand art well. The same is even true for the tool or the plugin developers.

They don't have a lot on the ball to be even a simple artist. Art and science are 2 different things and they are not able to cut it and just out-and-out liars and I'm sure they've played hooky from the art classes.

 

My first impression also was "Beach Boys", but it did progressively turn "Beatlish". How much this is due to the composing algorithm I don't know, but it is cleverly arranged.
Band In A Box is quite useful when it comes to arranging a chord progression in a certain style for demo purposes and I do occasionally use it, but it is a far cry from AI. It is not creative at all but based on musical theory and rules. Anyway, it's fun jamming with it when the band is not around ;)

 

And that was my point. I can wholeheartedly say that, based on the video I posted, the Sony composing tool has nothing to do with artificial intelligence as well. Unless you describe the search in a database and building a new sequence out of existing ones a process of A.I. Everything that actually was creative work, was done by the composer.