Hi guys,

I have an old MacPro 1,1 which has a bunch of plugs ( some cracked, some legit) and planning on going to a 5,1 possibly one of the 2 below:

2.93GHz 6-core / Westmere 5,1

3.06GHz 6-core / Westmere 5,1

My question is, how do I go about transferring all my data To the new Mac without causing any of the cracks or plugs to have to reinstall or re serial? I'm assuming I can't just take the hard drive and plug it into the new Mac. Sorry if this is a stupid question as I haven't purchased a Mac in years and out of date.


Both system will be running 10.11.5.


Thanks in advance,

 

Last edited: Sep 22, 2016

Not sure how to ensure the carryover of all your plugs, but I'd advise cloning your original system drive with SuperDuper, a program I started using before Time Machine appeared and which is still the only cloning program I use based on the fact that SuperDuper clones are fully bootable, autonomous copies. I just upgraded from 10.10 to 10.11, but kept an untouched copy of my 10.10 drive around in case I had any problems. I also have an old Mac Pro 1,1 which I no longer use for music production, and suspect a bigger issue may be the fact that some of the software that works on the 1,1 may be too old to work on a 5,1 or 6,1 (for example, NI Battery 3 still worked on my 1,1 but not on my newer Macbook Pro). But that's just a guess. Good luck.

 

Thanks for the advice. I use superduper and wasn't sure if I cloned my drive and installed to the new Mac, it would carry over as both are running 10.11.5. I have no issues re-cracking but wasn't sure if method of cloning/ plug in drive to the new Mac would work.

 

Last edited: Sep 22, 2016

On first launch your mac will ask you if you want to import data or applications from either another mac, a drive or a backup drive, make sure you put both of your mac on the same network, or connect your old mac's hard drive to the new one, and import... tried it once, and worked, but via hard drive, via network... no idea.

good luck.

 

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Cool so the only way is to connect both computers and use migration assistant? I can't just clone the hard drive and plug it in to the new Mac?

 

Well I find that apples are supper reliable imo and I'm not buying a new machine anyway. This is a 2010 used so no warrant from Apple

 

Last edited: Sep 22, 2016

It's interesting because Louis is an amazing tech but I often find his insights and commentary about ethics, etc. more relevant and captivating. And that's coming from a guy that loves to tinker with tech stuff on an intimate level.

 

i do all cloning or "Restoring" with built-in OSX app, Disk Utility. And it's Recovery image features, with most OS X versions, wether via an installed local Recovery partition (accesible by holding "Alt-Option" key, while booting), or from an external hd/flash drive with different versions of recovery/install osx partitions. Apple... is still great. 2011-2015 machines are fabulous, and will recommend to my dying day.

back to topic, Disk Utility verifies. and it repairs, partitions, etc.... combined with Terminal in the recovery boots, you can wipe newer logical core partitions to older GUID partition maps, and continue to add aditional system partitions, for whatever need, on even latest 2015 model macs. the mac pro's are still from 2013 model, and still boot mavericks, the last "holy grail" os x, since snow leopard was phased out, with 2011 mac's (my 2011 mbp 17" with e-sata and thunderbolt, still transfers just as fast as most 2013-2015 mac's thru usb3/thunderbolt).

I strongly recommend staying on Mavericks 10.9.5 for one partition of pro audio, with most k'd stuff. then having a second partition, with legit stuff, or just to use as an updated os for video editing apps, iphone compatibiliity, etc, like el capitan or latest mac os sierra.

Bootable options are great.... and easy, on a 250-500 gb ssd, super fast to the board thru the two extra SATA connections, on the mac pro tower boards.

yada yada... what was the question? you can clone anything on a mac, then migrate or update os to any partition, etc.... and then just re-authorize plugins. instead of re-installing everything. most plugins are auth via serial or key, so most should be ok. some, like spectrasonics/toontrack/nexus/, etc, have odd auths, and you just reconnect/re-auth, it's quite easy, really. a few hours "restoring" with disk utility - especially with both drives, hooked up to the same machine!!! - versus days re-installing everything.

or install a fresh new OS on a drive/ssd... then "Migrate" your old over partition over, and then re-auth.


mac systems all day, every day no problem. can't do that in a few hours, on a PC. not with 700-1,400 plugin type clone setups....

 

Wow this is a lot of useful info here. So stupid and repetitive question, can I clone my current drive from Mac Pro 1.1 and plug it into the new machine 5,1 system and everything will be good to go beside reauth some plugins?

 

um... if mac pro 5,1 supports your older OS X version, then yes. otherwise... run OS X update installer, or "Install OS X" boot image of the newer os x, onto your cloned (copy, of course - always keep a safe un-modified backup) os disk, then yes - rescan and re-auth everything. most should work, some will need re-auth. try it! enjoy!

 

I use Carbon Copy Cloner to use different systems accorss different mac's. Works like a charm. Only thing's the authorisation of some plugs from one mac to another. I've solved that by using creating multiple users. One for each mac the system will be used on. And I get to keep carbon copies of most of my older systems for archival purposes.

 

What has that got to do with buying a Second hand mac, Little lone a Mac Pro 5.1?
Warranty is Defunct... And is it a glorified PC? YES... Brilliant build quality as you'd know as you previously have owned apple hardware.
Fact is... No .Kext file edits required and all OS/App updates problem free...
Im not saying "Apple' is the dogs bollox, but to say a second hand mac pro 5.1 is garbage due to the companys warranty support is nothing but fanboy drivel.
SMH.

On topic.
As artwerkski mentioned, Carbon Copy Cloner for me...

Great features such as it can do incremental backups, and creates a bootable system.
For example, Was working on a Protools session, with deliverables needed ASAP , and against my own doctrine , I updated the OS.... Protools wouldn't boot... Fk me !!! So booted off the CCC image, bounced the session... What a relief.....
It also keeps authorisations between drives, though not System ID hardware Auth, as after all it would be a new computer.

Hope that helps.

 

Last edited: Sep 25, 2016

Sweet!! I have a back up using superduper. I'll give it a try

 

Awesome advise

 

Makes sense. Thanks for the info and honestly, if I had the money I would buy a new Mac Pro regardless of someone's bad experience with apple service but since I don't so I'll just buy a used system which should do everything I need it too.


To be frank I have never had a Mac crap out on me asides from a hard drive. I've had many PCs die.

 

Okay so i finally jumped the gun and got a 3.33ghz 6 core 5,1 system 32 gb ram and 4x 1 HD for $900. I tried the clone and drop in but it didn't didn't boot up so basically used migration assistant. Took forever to transfer because I have a ton of apps. Had to reserial a couple of plugs but everything's working amazingly now. Thank you everyone for the wonderful advice.

 

Congrats for your "new" Mac Pro, 900$ seems really a bargain,
here, I've seen some second hand same as you from 1300 to more than 2000 €, that's why I choose to go on the hackintosh road

though if I were you, I would put at least one SSD to boost it.

I think Apple completeley lost their "Audio customers" with their last Mac Pro, I don't need those GFX cards which overboost the price.

 

Thank man. I'm planning on getting an SSD for boot but money's a little tight as My wife and I just had a baby not too long ago. There's a guy in the Los Angeles area that's contracted through major studios that sells thier older macs at awesome prices. Not sure if this dude ships over seas though.

 

Congrats too for the baby , SSD can wait & it will be cheaper,

Oh and I'm totally ok with my Hackintosh (some hardware details in my signature with 2 SSDs) which I bought in February, so this one should last a few years, thanx for your concern though.