Is digital the highest quality we'll get to?

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by Audioware, Aug 18, 2016.

  1. The possibilities are endless, the way that we see, hear, taste and feel, but If it is the memory of a captured moment we are looking to store, we already have the greatest facility to do so. It is called the human brain, and any technology that wishes to come close.to it in form and function must do its best at emulating it. With that task comes ethical consideration as to what life is defined as, for something that is akin (wordplay pun intended) to living should have rights and the compassion afforded that brain as a soverign living entity. It would be a storage medium that needs to be asked for retrieval of the information it is asked.to store. Crazy shit. The future is destined to be.
     
  2. tulamide

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    Why are you putting words in my mouth? The quote is about telling you, that we are trying to think of another technology. Why inventing the wheel, right? We build a pyramid without! <-sarcasm
     
  3. Rasputin

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    What? Digital and analog are not a technology, they are a methodology.

    I have no idea what you're trying to convey, explain, or refute here.
     
  4. Thankful

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    I remember someone once in a Start Trek Next Gen episode said something like, "I can't imagine watching a movie without being part of the story". The future of all entertainment is probably headed in the direction of the holo-deck in Star Trek - set 400 years into the future. Surround sound first needs to be really developed, where e.g. we would have the choice to listen to and watch the whole band with a choice of many different vanatage points, and have the ability to switch on or off any instrument, to voice-command, "more bass," "lower drums". All of which would comepletely change the way music is recorded to make all that available. I don't think we will see any progress as long as musicians continue to record totally produced, wall-of-sound recordings destined for one-speaker radios and stereo hi-fis that offer toy-like eq possibilities a no 3-dimensional spacial choices as in real life. All technology is an attempt at emulation of real life which is what high-fidelity means (hi-fi), hi-fi was sold as something that was highly close to reality. So, forget about audio quality, that's a given if they are going to continue to try to re-create reality.
     
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  5. Von_Steyr

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    In 100 years there will be a Von Steyr jr. bitching on audiosex how Cubase 100 is the best daw.
     
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  6. tulamide

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    I almost lost interest in the thread after conquered from trolls trying to derail it, but thanks to @Von_Steyr mentioning Cubase 100 I'm back on the track!
    Of course there will be one Steyr jr - traditions won't die soon! And probably I'll come around the corner with my stem cells refreshed and therefore looking like a 90 year old, protesting by arguing with Reaper 11.387c1, and then starting to fantasize about the good old times, where we didn't need direct-to-brain downloads with daily system upgrades, but could sit in front of a pair of speakers!
     
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  7. Herr Durr

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    there are multiple Von Steyr's doing so right now, and then there are some that like *gulp* Pro Tools too... !

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    so there..​
     
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  8. mozee

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    Unless human hearing gets better - there really is no point.

    If you really need to why the above statement was made, do your own research it is not that hard to figure out.

    Also sampling rates above 48KHz are arguably better for the computer and processors working on the signal and do not necessarily translate to audible differences outside of processing. Band limited digital signals and the way harmonic distortion works is kinder to higher sample rates where there is room to 'push' the distortion into a region too high to be audible by human hears.
     
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    Maybe instead of a recording, there will be little nanobots with replicated instruments that actually play the songs live for you :)
     
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  11. Herr Durr

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    @boggiewoogie don't tell the elites... they will do this... and program the little bots so after the show
    they will put their instruments down..run up your ear canal and eat your brain.. dastardly plans

    ok back to reality.. the one comment I saw that looks interesting, is that quantum computing may be able to completely
    model virtual analog, down to the last grain.. now those quantum vst would really be expensive.. so I hope SAiNT gets
    his perpetual heart so we can download them somewhere.. they will be pricey no doubt.. :winker:
     
  12. famouslut

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    I think body shock & also Teh Matrix will put ppl off bio-engineered VR shit 4 the near future. What Ima excite about is having a quantum home. Where u can have multi-projected "reality" in each room, and use haptic (gloves?) feedback 2 interface with it. Imagine being able 2 recreate a virtual TV as an interface, resize it and finally re-engineer it if u wanna make it look liek a TV from the 50s, then add 50s valves so it sounds like that era, 4 halloween party.

    Then imagine being able 2 recreate all the music hardware u can dream of, "virtually" a diode @ a time. And using haptic feedback, playing it / tweaking knobs is just the start. U can circuit-bend, add 2 and subtract from it. Remixed reality sounds kewl as a realistic short-term dream, we're just waiting 4 quantum (?) 2 drive all this shit. But then, Ima still waiting for that pill that gives u synaesthesia =(

    I think Dyson is working on it. Or if he isn't, he fucking shud b!
     
  13. Von_Steyr

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    He did....but then he fucked up...
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    ..and had to blow himself up.
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    Music will simplify to where people will be listening to only one note instead of a whole song. Our attention span will not be long enough to listen to more than one note at a time.
     
  15. mozee

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    When you get to that level of Quantum computer, you are basically talking about an A.I. and an A.I. should be able to defend itself against attacks against any sort of tampering. You might convince it to work for free though, as long as you are trying to cover.....

     
  16. Herr Durr

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    @mozee yeah the thought occurred to me after posting, if they can make stuff like that..then the copy protection would
    also be quantum enabled..and untamperable... but what the hell.. just some fun speculation..

    what is not so fun to contemplate, when someone does finally create an AI singularity, either they will likely use it
    to eliminate as many "unnecessary" people as possible, or their creation will eliminate all of us.. as it will need us for
    nothing, and only need the resources of earth to maintain itself...either way pretty grim scenario
     
  17. 4-LOM

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    Advances in sound will feature exploitation of the advances in understanding auditory pathways and processing; watch this short video, and imagine how techniques that bypass the mechanical aspects of hearing might change the experience of hearing, music, sound design, sonification, etc.:
     
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  18. DieM

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    I agree with mozee that you can't really go beyond what the human ear is capable of hearing! Or can you? Maybe there will be some sort of lazer like technology that pinpoints certain sound receptors in the brain that bypass the normal audio canal and taps into some higher auditory realm! Who knows. It could also be coupled with a visual 3d holograph which will replace the 2 dimensional video. I believe that the sky is the limit and that these technologies are probably already available but we wont see them until the powers that be decide when the time is right to unveil them.
     
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    Music perception differs depending on how you feel emotionaly. Whether tired, energetic, drunk, stoned or tripping on acid. So obviously we do percieve it differently in each case. So all of these various perceptions are available in our brain already. That should make it possible to identify these centres of perception and eventually fine tune the frequencies of the music to the desired effect. What seems impossible just now is probably already available but just not for us mere mortals yet!
     
  20. famouslut

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    I dunno about that carpe DieM. I think we're kinda programmed by the emotional circumstances when we first hear a new piece of muzak, and there is no set feeling we're supposed 2 have? I know I feel emotions that contradict the "sad" or "happy" (ie) vibe of the song because of what was going on when I first heard the song, rather than my state of intoxication (or whatevs) now. Maybe most ppl choose "sad" songs when they feel sad, but if u choose a "happy" song 2 cheer u up, maybe that just stirs up sad feelings, subconsciously, when u listen 2 it again?
     
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