Conversions Questions

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  1. Adamdog

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    Hello and thanks in advance for reading this nasty one:
    Ok I use to convert my files with a dedicated program which offers a considerable amount of features and processes.
    I record aif files at 24 bit, 96 and 44.1 kHz
    My program has "blocks" for any operation
    A block to convert the sample rate A block to convert from aif to wav A block to convert 24 to 16 bit A block to export to mp3
    How would you chain this to preserve quality? I mean is it better to immediately convert to wav then follow the list above Or, as istance, convert to 16 bit first then to wav etc?
    What about 96 kHz files? Would you convert to 44.1 as first or last move? My guess is last move...
    Youtube, Soundcloud and many others encode your files in upload I've read that it is useless to convert a file to the required format cause it will be processed again in upload. So lately I've started to upload 24 bit 44.1 kHz aif files and let them handle the conversion. Am I right?

    When I bounce files to be converted from 24 to 16 bit I keep em at -0.2 Db When I bounce to convert to mp3 -0.3 Db When I bounce for Soundcloud -1 Db Correct? I don t know about youtube... Thank you
     
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  3. shomyca

    shomyca Producer

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    How do you record those without audio interface? I saw your thread about studio monitors, and you use your motherboard's realtek, right?
     
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    yes
    for the web laptop
     
  5. Adamdog

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    I wasn' t the thread starter, maybe you're confusing me with the guy who has asked about the cabling, he needs an interface, I have one
     
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    Highest to lowest. Start with 24bit conversion of wav to aiff, or 24 to 16; then go 96 to 44.1 (although, from 96, I would go to 48 instead; if it was 88.2, I would go to 44.1) -but no big deal. Use voxengo r8brain pro (batch conversion) or adobe audition for almost 0 aliasing artifacts.

    That's what I would do.
     
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    ah great reply, and you confirmed my suppositions so thanx

    yes 96:2=48 better
    so would you record at 88.2 instead of 96 kHz ?
    I know how a pair division is better... why everybody ignore this? I don t really know

    thank you man, wise answer
     
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    ah ok on Mac I use Audiofile Engineering Sample Manager, Lame framework for mp3 conversions
     
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    would you first convert aif to wav or 24 to 16 bit?
    thanks
     
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    Honestly, I would record at 48. Depends on the quality of your converters. High end converters sound good at 44.1,48.88.2,96. It doesn't matter when using those; only to capture acoustic miced performances would you maybe choose 88.2 or 96.

    If your converters are pro-sumer, then sometimes you notice a difference when switching sample rates. If you DO notice a big difference, then the converters are of poor quality. However, if you're not micing, or reamping, or mixing w/ outboard, or going outboard w/ 2-buss and then back in, then don't worry about it. If you're recording only ~2-3 tracks of miced material requirind A/D conversion, again don't worry about it. -

    For just mixing Kontakt instrument, vstis, and minxing itb, and sudo mastering your own stuff, the DA converter is the most important aspect.

    To summarize my thoughts - 48 is perfect. If going to CD, then 44.1 (of course)
     
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    You can actually do everything at the same time if you're using just one tool - just save mp3 convert for a seperate process. Final levels for different hosting sites are subjective.
     
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    mmh very interesting
    ok I record mics, yes, vocals, guitars, some DI
    I have a summing mixer, 16 channels, 8 stereo buss, I'm forced to mix at 44.1 kHz cause of samples, plugs and outputs (I need 14 DA channels)
    RME Hammerfall, Digiface, ADI 8 DS and ADI 8 Pro (the second limited to 48 kHz)
    I can hear the difference between 96 and 44.1 kHz recordings, RME are middle range, not Lavry

    hey thanx again for the attention shown
     
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    everything at the same time... unf not possible with Audiofile Engineering Sample Manager
    it s got blocks for any action, you have to place the blocks in a chain
    I think other softwares do the same but don t let you choose, but there must be a procedure...
     
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    Ok. Do your sample rate first then do bit conversion.
     
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    ok perfect

    very useful hints I'm grateful
     
  16. shomyca

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    For sure. Sorry dude.
     
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    for what? no worries, I ve understood your doubt... it made me laugh for a while
    you did well to ask, I see
    ciao
     
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