Trilian and Yosemite, are they good friends ?

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  1. sham69

    sham69 Ultrasonic

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    I'm planning on going the hackintosh route to update my mid2011 Imac, which would be on Yosemite,

    I just wanted to know if Trilian runs fine on Yosemite 10.10.5,

    the most recent update I got is v1.4.3d

    Anyone can give me some feedback about it ?
     
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  3. signalflow

    signalflow Rock Star

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    I was using Trillian just fine on 10.10 and works as well on 10.11.5
     
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    that depends on your memory graphics card ,sound card, Ect.. why not just set it up and find out for youre self?
    Odd Questions your creating Topics About, You ok Bud ?
     
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    sham69 Ultrasonic

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    @signalflow,

    thanx for your answer, in fact I tried it a few days after posting this thread and had no problem too with 10.10.5,

    should have posted my experience back here.
     
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    @studio5599,

    I wasn't asking anything about the hackintosh,

    only about compatibility between Trillian (v1.4.3d) and Yosemite.
     
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    Awesome. Glad it worked out. I love Trillian. FYI I believe you don't even have to open Trillian with Omnisphere 2 as it integrates the Trillian Library within it.
     
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    Thanx for the infos guys,

    So far I'm only using Trilian for acoustic upright basses, though I did listen to some other patches and I can say the sound quality is really high,

    On the otherhand, never tried Omnisphere as I don't feel the need for it.
     
  9. signalflow

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    Cool but seriously you should give Omni2 a try. It's one amazing synth.
     
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    I see your point, but we have access to so many (virtual) intruments / tools, that some choices has to be made,

    and for me now, I want to focus on accoustic and ethnics VI, also orchestral tools and theory, oriental scales etc...
     
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    Well Omnisphere comes with a shit ton of sounds sources and the possibilities are literally endless for whatever you're trying to make.
     
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    You won't convince me that it can compete with specific virtual instruments multisampled for kontakt,

    like, for example, Spitfire strings/horns, or LA Scoring Strings, Embertone Blakus Cello, Embertone Friedlander Violin, etc...

    or in ethnic stuff, I like Impact Soundworks Turkish Oud, Soundiron Acoustic Saz, Ilya Efimov Armenian Duduk.

    These are 2 different "worlds" and I don't mean Omnisphere isn't good, I think it just doesn't target the same goals

    and as I said I am more in Ethnic / World (mostly oriental, african and indian music) and trying to add some orchestral skills too.

    Omnisphere or Nexus reminds me of what was called Hardware Synthesizer Workstation in the 90s like roland D20 or Yamaha Motif, of course now they improve a lot the concept and made it virtual for computer DAWs.
     
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    I concur
     
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    I don't think you understand my point of view , I'm not in the search of a sound design tool, but more in virtual instruments libraries,

    why would I bother to try Omni2, while I already have some multisampled libraries (not loops, only virtual instruments) for Kontakt that I'm am REALLY interested in (like the ones mentionned above) ?

    And yes, I already searched infos / demos / videos of Omni2, but I couldn't find much about "world" or ethnic patches, which clearly demonstrate that this is not a will from Spectrasonics to focus on that, even if there is a (litlle category) with for example a Kalimba which may be more than decent.

    What I didn't know is, if I understand what you say, they are some third party people developping banks for it, that's a nice thing, but no info on that on Spectrasonics website, a little too bad.

    Though if you have a link with world-specific banks with demos for Omni2, be my guess, I'm always curious...

    ON the other hand, guys, did you looked / listen to some demos of the libraries I talked about earlier to see if Omnisphere "plays" in the same category (meaning does these exists for Omni2) ?

    Trillian is a bit different as it focuses only in bass sounds and I knew it had a very good Upright bass, BUT I repeat, Upright Acoustic Bass is the only "sound" or instrument I was interested in (still very good one indeed) and yes I know it can do a lot more but that just IS NOT my interest (at least for now)...

    In the end, it seems to me, that samples library developpers are publishing their works more often in Kontakt format, so that is simple :
    more choices with quality libraries,

    which doesn't mean (at all) that Kontakt is better than Omnisphere, but only that I have more chances to find products that I like, in Kontakt rather than another "tool" like Omnisphere or Nexus or UVI engine or whatever.

    Even for Kontakt, there isn't that much very good quality World instruments libraries (with enough articulations , keyswitches, velocity layers , round robin etc to achieve a realistic sound performance).

    PS : Sorry for my english, I hope I made myself clear, it's not my native language.
     
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    I really don't think you did real researched dude. If there was 1 synth that I had to use as a single source, it would be Omnisphere. Just my opinion.
    Just look at the sound sources used to create omni 2. It has everything you might possibly need.
    https://www.spectrasonics.net/products/omnisphere/omnisphere-sources.php


    I'm not knocking on other synths but it looks like there was some real blood, sweat and tears making omni2 (not that other haven't). Also take a look at the sound libraries that come with it.

    https://www.spectrasonics.net/products/omnisphere/omnisphere-library.php

    Watching demos and actually getting your hands wet with it are 2 different experiences and to be honest I really love sample based synths such as Kontakt which I use in many of my productions. I've seen demos of Kontakt and wasn't really impressed until I actually played around with it.


    What actual instruments in the "world or ethnic" catagory are looking to find?
     
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    I think you still don't understand my needs/point of view and yas I already looked at the library and saw the World Ethnic category but as there is no demo of it, and honestly I doubt that those are multisampled like the ones I mention below otherwise the Omni 2 library would be more like 500 GB or more rather than 50 GB.

    I already gave you infos about some kind of instruments since several days, ok I will repeat it & add a few more :

    Acoustic Saz from Soundiron
    Turkish Oud, 8-string Acoustic Bouzouki & Sitar Nation from Impact Soundworks
    Armenian Duduk from Ilya Efimov
    AGM & AGL from Ample Sound these are acoustic guitars (not for kontakt though, they make their own interfaces plugin)
    Wavelore American Zither (this one is old & I don't think the maker of it still exists, but good quality),
    Hurdy Gurdy from Sonokinetic
    West Africa from native Instruments (mainly for the Kora : african harp, & the Balafon)
    Ney from Sonokinetic (not that good)

    You can google/youtube for those instruments above, you'll find easily apart from Wavelore american Zither which is bit old.

    Most of these virtual instruments libraries uses several GB of samples datas and takes some times to practice and to achieve a decent realism. Indeed this is the difference between a sample based VSTi like Kontakt, rather than a Synthesizer VSTi.

    I see Omni2 more like a creative/sound designer tool.

    Kontakt too can be used as a designer tool but I don't used that way, I only used it to play the sound libraries and focus on composing and learning to use those libraries in the best possible way,

    I also start or try to start using orchestral strings, huge libraries like :

    Spitfire Audio Mural Strings & Sable Strings
    Audiobro LASS 2
    Embertone Friedlander Violin
    Embertone Blakus Cello
    Embertone Herring Clarinet
     
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    Thanx for the info about Native Access, that might be a problem in the near future (or not), we'll see what the future holds.

    BTW, 70 GB for a multisampled piano is a bit too much for me :bleh:,

    the one from Spitfire & Hans Zimmer with 196 GB is ridiculous :no:,

    a few GB seems more than enough for a piano IMHO.
     
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  18. signalflow

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    Well I guess do what you want and try what you will. It's all up to you but I just don't understand why you wouldn't "try" omni 2 if you're using Trillian. Anyways good luck trying to find what you're looking for.
     
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