Where is the Illuminati bumped him off option?

 

As the illuminati, I can confirm, we did bump him off. We bumped him off to make his music resonate a little better with this dumb-ass generation we got going on. ;)
Lmao I'm only kidding I don't really work for the illuminati. LOL

 

Classic misdirection ploy, Impressive, we all can see through your game.

 

Andrew S. looks like Satan.
Just sayin.

 

Obviously he had to eat more then he did.

 

fentanyl is some pretty heavy stuff indeed.

 

does it really matter how he died? just a pity really

 

If it does not matter, you simply should not read this thread.

 

I wonder actually. As a forcibly retired FDNY Paramedic (my last paycheck was $1.07/biweekly though they still haven't fired me after 3 years not showing up which makes no sense, but whatever). There's a few things:

1) Opiates don't kill you. NOT breathing kills you. Sounds stupid, but it is what it is, it's call the hypoxic drive...opiates suppress that...narcan does wonders for ppl going into respiratory arrest, but they get pissed off at you for wasting their money on heroin cause you reversed their high.

2) He was using transdermal patches of phentanyl for at least a decade, (if we can believe his junkie dealer) topping off with PO Dilaudid (Hydromorphone Hydrochloride) prn, so, idk if you know junkies, or ppl that abuse opiate meds, tolerance builds fast, so him OD'ing on opiates, would probably take enough to make an elephant feel good. In fact, there's a hospice in the Bronx that makes their own morphine or opium, idr, Calvary Hospital. They say that there's NO upper limit to administration of morphine, and the patients are titrated until they are feeling ok before they die. Phentanyl is a morphine replacement med that has a kinder affect on cardiac patients. Maybe Prince thought, if the opiate wasn't named morphine it wasn't morphine...it's morphine, with a little better pharmacology, and then again...I'm suspicious about that too.

When I was a medic, phentanyl ("I heard, in a parallel universe") was used once or twice by medics (both female) both incorrectly. They used the morphine dosing in mgs (milligrams), and phentanyl is in ugs (micrograms). So think about that. Hard to kill someone even if you fk up by that magnitude. My dad got a 25 microgram dose post op and he was feeling no pain...(I asked the nurse...she eventually asked me wtf did I do...)

3) He was under a doctor's care to get off the opiates for a couple weeks prior, and at the time of his death, AND the fk'r was there AT his death...I assume forgetting his ACLS/BCLS and resorted to cutting off a chicken head, dancing and calling his attorney instead.

Do I call this phentanyl OD plausible? FK NO. Prince being a long time drug user would know sum ting wong, probably even has narcan IN (intranasal). It's not like a hypogycemic reaction, where the person could lose consciousness before they realize what happened...unless he was in bed sleeping, which he was NOT. It always amazes ppl when I used to wake up unconscious diabetics with an amp of Dextrose (sugar), which included the patient, cause they didn't know what happened in the first place.

DO I call the doctor killing him with his treatment trying to get him clean plausible? FK YES. Whotf is the doctor that he's being protected so strongly?

You guys know iatrogenic causes of death of Adults in the US is #1,2,3? #1 is doctors treatments done incorrectly, so medical procedures gone wrong. #2 is doctors' scripts correctly (sic) ordered AND administered. #3 is doctors' scripts incorrectly ordered or incorrectly administered.
Oh, like the victor writes the histories, so do the doctors right the top 10 lists for causes of death. Shhh, don't tell anyone. Allopathic medicine except for acute care IS DANGEROUS. That's only an opinion of a guy with a decade of EMS experience. Acute care you could die anyways, so the risk is worth it. I've been babysitting my dad from cancer surgery since 3 days ago, and never realized hospitals are really restaurants that need to turn over the tables (beds) and a slaughterhouse. He's now in a temp rehab facility until I won't have to try to pick him up if he falls trying to get to the bathroom. They wanted to just send him home after an overnight hospital stay. fml.

@jaymo99 It does matter because if docs can even kill famous ppl and get covered for it, what do you think they could do to you? Is America just as bloody lawless as I see? Like wtf. I mean, do you really think the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court had a heart attack and died with a pillow on his face? Do you? (short answer: all my patients actively or post heart attack and in arrest, never could possibly have something over their face, I'll explain if asked, it's kinda gross. Well, heart attacks really hurt, btw. The ones that kill you, not the ones that present atypically like little old ladies trying to not bother anyone...little old ladies, I was always really careful with...)

 

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i worked with fentanyl, it is very easy to overdose, even inhaling it could easily kill you

body stops breathing, thats it

illuminati confirmed

 

I was born in New England (which is comprised of 6 states: Massachusetts, Maine, New Hampshire, Rhode Island, Vermont, & Connecticut) and in New Hampshire, the heroin (or just opioids in general) crisis is super out of control. But in New England in general, whether you go to Boston, MA or somewhere else, it looks like a "Walking Dead" episode, literally. And around every corner is a person shooting needles. Many people die every month from it around here. I lost my Aunt Marie to it in 2006, and several good friends over the years. It's been taking a lot of people, especially recently. It's so easy to get because it's dirt cheap - literally anyone can afford it. And the cost of healthcare is so high that people have just resorted to abusing opioids instead, just to save money. A lot of heroin is also being smuggled across the border from Mexico in the the USA. That sometimes makes me think "Wow. Too bad this isn't like Indonesia - where they have been giving people capital punishment by firing squad for smuggling drugs over there."

 

I promise I've stopped commenting on this thread with this now, cause I just remembered we had a threat like this weeks ago, and I think moderation just shut off the comments...

@Impressive Well that sucks. But given that Afghanistan is producing >90% of the worlds opium, and the US military is in those areas growing poppy. We have a culprit. And I only see data as recent as 2014 on the CDC website...so it's escalating? Did your relative start with an Oxycontin script first, and then get cut off by the doc and resort to heroin? Cause that's what I had seen. When I was dating a 22 y/o jamaican girl, learning quick, not just white ppl can be racist at 18, there were ppl in their community saying the government was the importer. Over the years, given the "war on drugs" has only made the problem worse, I can't disprove that claim.

CDC data on fentanyl "overdoses" I estimate from chart 3,800 deaths in 2014. (Which makes you wonder given all the meds, what's the grand total?)
http://emergency.cdc.gov/han/han00384.asp

@spacetime The elephant in the room is that Prince died with a doc at his residence, even doing his jazzy version of cpr.
Coming off fentanyl or opiates in general is way easier to die than trying to overdose an addict. Especially, when the doc is in residence until you die. Just saying. Easy to OD imo would be way more ppl, no? morphine alone is 40,000 I thought...checking...During 2014, a total of 47,055 drug overdose deaths occurred in the United States
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6450a3.htm
Maybe they should start a "Mommies against Morphine", that's as much as MVA deaths/year...damn.

Increase in fentanyl/tramadol specific deaths*: 1.0 per 100,000 to 1.8 per 100,000 which if we have 320MM ppl (http://www.census.gov/popclock/) is: hey that's 5760 ppl...great cdc can't do math cause this is also from 2013-2014, hmmm added tramadol too? idk.


If there's a stickler for opiate (natural) and opioid (e.g., fentanyl) ok, yes I was lazy...which could kill your patient, but thank god I'm not doing that anymore. (Not not killing patients, not working, mofo!)
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*In 2014, 61% (28,647, data not shown) of drug overdose deaths involved some type of opioid, including heroin. The age-adjusted rate of drug overdose deaths involving opioids increased significantly from 2000 to 2014, increasing 14% from 2013 (7.9 per 100,000) to 2014 (9.0) (Figure 1). From 2013 to 2014, the largest increase in the rate of drug overdose deaths involved synthetic opioids, other than methadone (e.g., fentanyl and tramadol), which nearly doubled from 1.0 per 100,000 to 1.8 per 100,000 (Figure 2). Heroin overdose death rates increased by 26% from 2013 to 2014 and have more than tripled since 2010, from 1.0 per 100,000 in 2010 to 3.4 per 100,000 in 2014 (Figure 2). In 2014, the rate of drug overdose deaths involving natural and semisynthetic opioids (e.g., morphine, oxycodone, and hydrocodone), 3.8 per 100,000, was the highest among opioid overdose deaths, and increased 9% from 3.5 per 100,000 in 2013. The rate of drug overdose deaths involving methadone, a synthetic opioid classified separately from other synthetic opioids, was similar in 2013 and 2014.

 

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Due to a condition with my back/discs/nerves and it being a mixture of more than one area it is something that is not fixable
via operation which means that I'm always going to be in pain, It started when I was in high school, It's degenerative basically.

So I have been on pain medication just under half my life now, After using dihydrocodein tablets for may years with not very good results to be honest, I asked my GP whom I've known for ages what are my options for managing the pain to enable me to be a lot more up and about for my two Children, I raise them as a single, fulltime father 24/7, 365 and they do not see their Mother, I'm lucky to have good close family that help me and the Kid's a lot, Oh I'd be lost without their help. So to cut a long story short after going through my options I decided it was worth trying out patches for pain relief opposed to tablets. The first one I was tried on worked pretty well but it ate into my skin wherever the patch was, So on a quick return check up I showed my GP what these we're doing to me, She looked horrified at the sight of my stomach which is where I'd been placing them. So She switched me on to Fentanyl patches and I've been using these now for a good plus years now, They do not prevent all pain but they have offered me personally a far higher quality of life and most important importantly, I am able to be there for my Son and Daughter them like a parent should be, Always is always around whenever needed and wanted.

I do not know how such is handled in the United States let alone from state to state. I merely stick to what the prescription says and I've never had any really bad episodes, Just as long as I remember to replace the patches every three days. Knowing how people can so easily abuse what the big pharma's specialize in, I find it quite plausible that Rogers Prince Nelson could of been in a bad place looking for a solution which is often their undoing, I really do not know much about at all about Prince but just to speculate let's say he had a few drinks which will almost guaranteed end in problems (I do not drink any alcohol), I'm not saying that is what happened but just giving an example of how simply mixing up the two can go really wrong.

he manner in which a person can basically hire a Doctor over in the USA for the right money who will gladly write out whatever prescription the customer asks for and doesn't let something as minor as ethics and medical duty get in the way.

That is a really sad and sorry state what some will do to make their money. Here's to good health to everyone and your families and love one's. A very interesting topic, Cheers

Dean \m/

 

As i predicted

 

Some say, with such hair cuts you always live in danger.
But I don't think so.
The very big stars die young. And nobody knows why. This could underline the Alien Theory.
Interesting: both, Michael and Prince had medical issues and were US-stars in there 50ties.
So who is next? Madonna?
Something we can count on: Justin Bieber will live forever.

 

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As "the" White Man (bet y'all've wondered all this time who, exactly, that might be), I can say that I didn't do it. Opiate/oid addiction is insidious and takes over one's life, even of those who are prescribed such drugs to relieve or "manage" pain. In fact, in some states, it's very difficult to get on a pain-management program via Medicare or through the Veterans Administration, because the Law tries not to get people addicted or to have many painkiller pills circulating in the underground economy (i.e., indigent patients selling their meds off for money). Such patients resort to either illicit pharmaceuticals or regular ol' marijuana to alleviate chronic pain (neither being very economical for indigent patients). As for junkies, none believes they're going to get hooked, despite examples of that inevitability all around them. The guy I work for is stupid-rich, with a wife and kid, and he snorts Oxycontin, which is so white-trash – but he's also into guns. I myself even got hooked on opiate pharmaceuticals, back when I was young and stupid, after a drug dealer gave me a paper bag full of Vicodin, Percocet, and other such pills when he left the country. After a while of indulging in this abundant supply, one day I noticed that I felt nauseated and sweaty and shaky, and realized that I'd gotten addicted (being young and stupid). At that point, I did something smart: instead of taking more pills to alleviate the withdrawal symptoms, I just flushed the big bagful of pills down the toilet, and suffered withdrawal through the night. Last time I took Vicodin, it had been prescribed to me – maximum-strength horse-pill; made me projectile-vomit almost immediately. After three days, I got tired of being stoned, so thereafter just took Ibuprofen for the pain of my broken wrist. I now can't stand to be on drugs, for any reason, on any occasion – but to someone who's experiencing chronic pain in the hip, back or any other place, it feels so good not to feel it, but also not to feel the pangs of withdrawal.

 

You forgot Whipme Houston.

 

Good brief explanation (scroll down a bit):
Watch the video