Free Energy?

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  1. ArticStorm

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    there are ways, you can generate energy or lets say power with the earth magnetic field, but it doesnt supply enough power yet to be commercially used.
    it would be a never ending energy resource, i would get this working.
    i once read a paper about that, the method seemed simple, its just a bit electrodynamics you need to know for it to understand.

    Free Energy is also the name for a specific energy you can get with Legendre Transformation from the "normal Energy" its called F if i remember right. (Helmholtz free energy).

    so which free energy you mean?
     
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    In this specific island that's about 3/4 of a year.
     
  3. Erik_Menton

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    Physics is mandatory even in high school in my country and you study electromagnetism during the 4th year and quantum mechainics during the 5th, then i could claim to have a degree in physics but it would be irrelevant cause it would be sad and useless until what i say is scientifically correct, plus i really see no need to argument via authority, that would mean my argument are so weak that i need degree tto strenghten them Sorry but yours is pseudo science, i agree that EM fields and EM waves are obviously connected, but EM waves are not a byproduct of an already existing em field, 1 photons are field quanta of EM fields (according to quantum mechanics, any fields has a own quantum) and 2 many physicists ( Oersted for example) studied how we can produce an electromagnetic field (and actively em waves), for example, eletrical power in your house wires, produce em fields...
     
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    not sure about english cause it's not my language but what you are talking about uses "free" derived from "freedom" (at least in my language) i think in this case "free" is inteded as "not payed", the one you are talking about is perfectly fine with conservation of ebergy, the second is not.

    Using Earth magnetic field as an energy source is a good/bad idea, true it supplies low power now, but we can improve efficiency, with a cost obviously, it's not never ending, it's generated by Earth's core motion, stealing energy from it will weaken Earth magnetic field effectively slowing down Earth's core, obviously it would require a huge amout of energy taken but...
    It's like the Homhann transfer when you speed up a satellite with a precise fly-by orbit to a greater object, the speed you gain is energy transferred from the greater body to the satellite, and in fact it's a therized way to manipulate meteor's orbits..
     
  5. fraifikmushi

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    I think he's talking about the parascientific bs-free energy, usually found in boiler rooms.
    I wonder what that poor kid did to get locked up in the boiler room.
     
  6. MrMister

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    pseudo science? how? if you look back at what was already said, i have been correct. you are clearly reading up as we're speaking and copy and pasting what you've read without a clear understanding of how things work. what you've said isn't feasible and is even more crude then solar panels..again, takes energy to make the energy in this example. that's what makes a science pseudo. stop with the whole "i should have my degree by now" antics. everyone has had elementary physics in high school..not the same by a long shot. you haven't said anything to the fact that it is a cyclical science. funny that "someone" who liked your comment just joined today..i wonder if that ip address is the same as your own. i'm done with this anyway, you have no ears to hear, and this conversation is derailed. everything i have said is true, you are just skewing it, and i believe i have elaborated each time and given at least a good explanation better than your own which you clearly regurgitated and don't understand.
     
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    Basically he uses Tesla's patent no.685,957 an apparatus for utilizing the radiant energy.I was a Tesla fan years ago and read all his bio and all about the efforts to shut him down.Anyway this thing is actually a "converter".Grabs all the vibrating waves (either coming from a radio station,or cosmic rays or whatever has a frequency factor) and "converts" them in electricity through the Tesla coil.I've tried that too.I could get from a few mVolts to 2 Volts.It depends on your antenna,and on the environment.Let's say it's a stormy day or you are close to a radio station's antenna. (my father was able to light a normal light bulb next to a transmitter.I wasn't even close to that voltage) then you have a reasonable amount of energy.This was the apparatus Tesla was planing to install on every house (like the TV antenna's we have now) and have a central transmitter to supply electricity through air.But then even if it was possible, there was a major problem.Anyone with an antenna could have free electricity at home.This was Tesla's dream,and the reason they put him down.Nobody (from the investors) wanted to give free energy.They wanted to get paid.This thing here the kid does,is nice but is not a new patent.I salute him for his effort but to be honest he just put together several parts.He is good but we can't call him an inventor.Let's hope he doesn't end up like the mothaf**a Edison who had Tesla working for him and was exploiting all the patents
     
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    correct, and in fact his apparatus was meant as a wireless energy transportation, you are basically taking energy from the radio station, and it needs to produce said energy.
     
  9. MrMister

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    obviously his invention was meant as a wireless energy transportation..that is what we have been talking about..there is not enough energy, though, ambient or not, to power the power supply and the products you want to supply to, besides simple light bulbs. then we get into amplification, adding another energy source. see where this is headed?
    i definitely have to leave this conversation, as it is also becoming cyclical. lol
     
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    quantum mechanics in high school... sorry, but that makes me just rofl. :rofl:
     
  12. Erik_Menton

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    you may think so, but claiming that we cant produce em waves but just use already existing em fields to generate them it's pseudo science, a moving electrical charge will generate an electromagnetic field, we can easily produce an em field and em waves without having to "use existing ones". Maybe you misunderstood my broken english but i agree that energy can't obviously be created, but we can obviously convert energy and produce em waves. I only disagree with that part, cause it's pseudo science, or unproven at best.
     
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    and i have no problem with that but then it's not "free energy", i simply have problems with the claim that we can't produce electromagnetic waves but only use already existing ones, that's scientificaly incorrect. Feel free to leave, i won't be offended.
     
  15. MrMister

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    and what makes those produced EM waves possible on earth? i am saying they are used as a template. you know what a template is, yes? you understand earth's polarity and how it effects these processes, yes?
     
  16. MrMister

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    on the notion that you have become fixated on i can humbly say i haven't explained what i've meant to the fullest extent. EM waves need to already exist before you broadcast and aren't manufactured at a radio station, like you had previously said.
     
  17. Erik_Menton

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    sorry but i have never seen this concept anywhere, do you have a scientific paper backing up this hypothesis?
     
  18. MrMister

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    i never meant we can't produce them, they are a part of many sciences. i love atom smashers.. rather a reproduction of what already exists in nature, which would need to be where we harvest them from to be feasible, otherwise energy consumption for such devices have a circular problem that has been looked at by MANY scientists.
     
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    any evidence? already existing since when? are these EM waves emitted somewhere else or you mean they are eternal? be clear.
    Or do you mean that radio waves are emitted also by natural sources and we produce radio waves imitating nature (in this case i don't see the problem since i've been talking from the start about starts emitting full spectrum of em waves, radio, light, uv, etc etc..)
     
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  20. MrMister

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    be clear? don't be so brash. just because you don't understand what i'm saying doesn't mean i don't make sense. they are emitted and boosted at radio stations. not manufactured at radio stations. you took a small portion of what i said and made it the center of attention to bypass the true point. this methodology isn't feasible as free, sustainable energy, in this current form.
     
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