Losing Passion For Producing Music

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  1. Wurlie Rocker

    Wurlie Rocker Producer

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    You want your hard work to pay off, I don't see anything wrong with that. It's normal. But don't be so hard on yourself. Take a pause, 2-3 days at very least, and get back to your mix a bit later. You need a fresh ears, fresh mind, fresh perspective. The thing is, as a performer and producer you learn everyday, you grow. And while you may like your mix today, say, 2-3 months later you may grow into a different man, wiser, more experienced, more skilled at what you do, and your approach to how you make music may change. You may not like your old mix, because you didn't know something back then and you were limited somehow, but now that's changed and you've advanced in your knowledge and skill.

    I'm just saying this from personal experience. Me and my colleague often laugh about it and say that there is no "perfect mix" at all. The more you know, the more you want to improve. There are no boundaries and there is no end. Once Salvador Dali said something like: "Don't be afraid to search for perfection in your art. You will never reach it". And if a perfectionist artist like Dali says something like that, it has to tell you something.
     
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    As live instrument , I play keyboard and synthesizer (i try to improve myself when i play)

    I produce Trance music for my official releases. Sometimes downtempo and ambient elements .

    But i produce Trance music with orchestral, cinematic, score elements or sometimes just driving tech-trance and psy sounds .

    I never think about Trance music is only just bass and drum that's why Main melody is life for me when i produce Trance music.

    It should give me emotion even scary and horror themes.

    I always work on music scales even augmented scales.
     
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    I play my melodies on keyboard and record it as midi channel .

    I'm agree with you i would like to go outside always and seeing new places . But i don't have time because my daily jop is from 8.00 to 18.00 everyday and i work in Saturday from 08.00 to 13.30 .. Stress really sucks myself and there are always problem in daily jop.
     
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    I wish i could remove all stress reasons from my life . But it makes you feel like you have no emotions in life and u just desire to get passion.
     
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    sounds actually like you have a bit too much work load on your shoulders to relax on sunday or during the week after work and diner to find some good musical downtime. That sucks but if music and making music means that much you should, when you feel a bit better and have somewhat of a more positive outlook, rethink your work situation in order to find some more space in your life for: music.
     
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    I wish i could open a positive topic and you could do your registration for it
    but anyway thank you for your support.

    Me too , can't get motivation to do anything .

    I feel that my head is full of fog or sth like that and it is so busy , can't think fresh and clear.

    For example when you feel your body dirty and
    u want to take a bath then you come yourself.

    I feel it for my head , soul and brain, i dont know.
     
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    Yes , i question a lot of things now
     
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    woa, that's some good stuff!
     
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    Yes , i call it for myself " Stuck in black hole " because i even listen my own productions so much . For example i produced bass or some elements , i say to myself wow this is great good then i want to write melody there is no passion anymore , just upset and missing part
     
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    People told you already go out, chat with friends but not virtualy :) go take girl on the dinner fuck her hard idk :rofl:
    Or this stuff from Brian Eno, when he stucks with inspiration he uses some motivation cards
    http://www.rtqe.net/ObliqueStrategies/
     
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    Thanks for ur support
     
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    Thank you for reminding my other thinks by your answer.

    Because of daily hard jop and its saturday problem , i started to think that i have no time so time will go , i can't leave time as let it go.
     
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    As i mentioned on previous post , i produce Trance for my releases but with different types and minds.

    I have release from a big major label and label boss is famous in scene as Armin . This release has been played on festivals by famous names.
    This label boss supported me so much and he always expect new tracks from me

    My problem is not about scene for now , my problem is my passion, my inspration. I don't have passion for writing melody and composing.
    It kills me
     
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    *Job

    Maybe your job is the problem, not the creative/fun of making music.
    Perhaps get a different job ( or work less hours), so that you have energy left?
     
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    I have read threads like this on Audiosex before, and inasmuch as respondents offer sincere moral support, they also naturally do so in reflection of their own experiences of this phenomenon - which, for being subjective, are no less sincere. The point is that. though they may not have experienced the depletion of their passion for music-making in the same way nor for the same reasons, but they are not just "talking about themselves."

    Such a crisis had, a long time ago, gotten so bad that I had to decide to either quit making music or commit suicide. Fifteen years later, I started making music again (after a kid showed me Garageband, and the switch in my mind went to "on" again). Seven years later, After making music I'd've never imagined possible and of which I have every reason to be proud, I myself am feeling a flagging of my enthusiasm for doing it. Aside from needing to put it aside for a while for "recharging the batteries," the reasons for my diminished passion include:

    1: The negative attitude of people I know toward my music-making. It's not the music itself that they disdain, it's the fact that I'm doing something good, and doing it well. No one I know thinks in terms of my being successful with it, as though I should not be. Therefore, no one helps to promote it, encourage it, facilitate it, felicitate it, and so on. In fact, the more I have done, the less that people I know acknowledge it. Although I do not want "my music" to be at the fore of my relationships with people, they refuse to recognize its being a major part of my life, as would be someone's children. One "friend" actually told me why he refused to encourage me with "the music thing," but his explanation made no sense, so I can't recount it. Another flat-out told me, "It's futile," and I got up from the table of the coffee shop where we were and walked six miles home and never talked to him again. Someone else told me, "You can't expect anyone else to want to help you be successful," and I corrected him, "You're saying that I shouldn't want anyone else to help me be successful." Someone else made the underhanded wisecrack, "You're making a lot of music - but none of it's selling." I replied, "I have never told you about sales figures, so why is it that you assume that it's not selling?" And so on. It's a simple and subtle as just never mentioning my music, apart from asking me, "How are sales?" Others listen to it and tell me what I should have done instead - the "best" of the suggestions begin with, "What I would have done is . . ." (Yeah, but you hadn't, nor could you have.)

    2: The diminishing camaraderie and community among musicians. A couple weeks ago, I went to a free, one-day hearing clinic for musicians, where none of the musicians chatted with others, not even asking, "Hey, man - what d'you play?" These people even tried not to acknowledge the presence of other musicians around them. It was really creepy, and kind of scary. Musicians are incapable, now, of community by which they help each other and form a nurturing environment for friendly competition. On social media, other musicians contact me only to command me to "check out my new blablabla" or to demand that I do promotional work for them as "part of my virtual street-team." (Like, bitch, didja notice that I'm a musician, too? You're the one signed with a management/marketing company! Not even any implication of reciprocity? Do I even know you?) This is both cause of and caused by the following factor.

    3: The colonization of musicians, and the usurpation of musical culture, by techies. I could go on about it at greater length than point #1, but consider this: It is because it doesn't occur to musicians who perform for tips to put a sign with their PayPal address by the tip jar/bucket (for those in the audience who "don't have any cash" or might be more generous electronically) that some geek steps in to "try to help" musicians with his start-up company that processes electronic tips for musicians - at a percentage in addition to that charged by PayPal. I feel like some black activist of yore, when I say. "We gotta stop letting them come in and 'try to help' us and exploit us; we gotta be doin' things for ourselves." They've divided-and-conquered us, for the sake of profit (theirs own, not ours). I also say: "Own your tech, or tech will own you."

    I just have to accept that I am all alone against the world, that I have maybe two friends, and that I must do what I can to shield from such forces that which I do best and love most.
     
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    Work is one of big problem now i can figure out. It effects so much , i know. You pointed on important issue
     
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    I have no problem about girl or chating with friends . I meet with them on Sunday which i have only one day without daily job. But they sometimes feel from my face that something disturb me in life.
     
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    Thanks for correct my mistake " job " .

    You are right , it effects so much as noone can't image
     
  19. fraifikmushi

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    The answer is simple: you cannot work creatively if you have a day job that drains all your energy.
    You mentioned having released, including one release on a major label. In my understanding this means in psytrance terms something in the leagues of hommega records, right? Doesn't that generate demand for bookings so you can make your living entirely from your music?
     
  20. The Teknomage

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    Just out of interest what do you have?

    I have a 2 hour window in the evening for music. I try not to do longer, sometimes shorter. I don't use a computer now, as for me, I find it counter productive to how I work. I have an old sequencer, which I sit on my lap, and I programme and play into it. If I find I'm not moving forward, for example I get stuck on one part for more than 10 minutes, I flick to an empty pattern and start something else. I'll go back to it next time.

    Work is work, and it's important to learn to leave there, and not bring it home with you.
    I'm not that young now, but there is one thing that I try to live by. Growing old is obligatory, whist growing up is optional.
     
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