How to make good Piano sound from librarys

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  1. Swatch

    Swatch Producer

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    Hey there.
    Just listened to this track. and it has a phenomenal piano.


    I know that the song is mixed and mastered. But i never get happy with my piano sounds.
    I tried to rebuild it for days.

    i looped the piano from the track and my "creation"



    So does someone use piano librarys and get them nice?
    Maybe some tips.
    I tried Alicia Keys, NI Gentlemen, Session Keys.
    I listened to many demos in the net. They sound all so natural with all resonances and attacks.
    And sometimes they sound metallic.

    Maybe you know a good sounding "pop" piano which does not sound acoustic and natural?

    thank you :)
     
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  3. Chris2016

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    The problem is - a real piano player uses a Sustain Pedal. In fact - there are 3 pedals on most pianos.

    A sustain pedal (hold it down - the notes "ring" like a guitar string before it is muted or replace by another note on the same string)

    Then there is the damper pedal to make the tone softer.

    If you want the bright, ringing piano like in the song you posted - you are going to have to invest in a foot pedal controller for your MIDI keyboard.

    Alternatively, you can use MIDI Ctrl# 64 for Sustain.

    Send Value: #00 for Pedal Off -> #127 for Pedal On.

    Use Pedal On between chords, etc...to make the sound sustain longer.


    Using the pedal - you can also start at the bottom of the keyboard - and play notes all the way up:

    C1, C2, C3, G3, C4, G4, C5, E5, G5, C6, E6, G6, C7, E7, etc... Hitting each note once and then the next, quickly or slowly, and because all the notes are sustaining -> you can play huge sounding chords easily that sustain for a long time.


    Hope this helps.

    Chris
     
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  4. Klaviernatum

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    Well, I will tell you my personal secret and taste as a pianist:
    For the low notes, use Bösendorfer samples. For the middle Range, Steinway D. For the higher keys, A Yamaha C7. And from there, add pedal resonance, and all hammer noises from a Kawai, Samick or Hyundai piano. That's a weird and interesting complete piano.
    From there, construct the harmonic wooden structure with a convolution reverb; and tune that piano below 440hz. Anything beyond of that, EQ's, Compressors, etc. are up to you!

    Or if you will, Pianoteq do the perfect trick for you.
     
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    So basically, all you use in place of those stuff you mentioned is Pianoteq?
     
  6. Swatch

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    nice.
    Thanks for the info.
    I will try pianoteq and i will try layering some pianos.
    Thank you :)
     
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