actually ... is there an option somewhere where I can terminate my account. can't find it in the profile nor in an sticky thread?

 

LMAO - in a forum filled with aspiring musicians, you decide to start a post that excludes them and want to win friends to help you? With that logic, you should go into a development forum asking advice from only "the best" hackers and see what happens.

Also, just because someone isnt a pro, doesnt mean they cant help you. After all, thats who you are.

Tip: There are general guidelines to help with mastering, but knowing the basics of phasing, conflicting frequencies and how a compressor works will get you much further.

 

Look I do understand why somebody would like an answer from a pro. It saves time sorting through people who have ideas without the experience. But the problem is amongst the nonpro people there are some ideas and little gems that we old guys did not think of.
Don't treat the Pro request harshly. When you go to other forums there are reams of bullshit and then you will find a reply from a guy who wrote the software. Time is precious and it takes a lot of time to go through the illinformed..

 

for low frequencies slow attack and fast release give it a good thump, and about mid and high freq. it's really up to your instruments and preferences. Within limits make it sound the way you want not the way others like it. If it's bad,definitely your ears will tell you at some or the other time. If you are after the pro sound the quickest way to get close to it is izotope eq matching (YouTube it), but it's not perfect. First apply it then work on it. It's pretty good when you are in a hurry.

Mixing EDM by Mathew Weiss is a good one.

 

I understand - but your second point is what I was getting to. Lots of the latest hackers, even in our world (ALL HAIL AudioUtopia) could be some of the younger guys who simply have more time and access.

I understand sifting through bad advice, but hell if your looking from advice from a pro - wouldnt it be easier to watch a tutorial from one?

 

Hello.

Out of the comedy, one of the tricks that i may mention, is try to set the values on a homogeneous way, keeping this process more general, and consequently achieving a more transparent compression.
You have to think at this point that the mastering process has to be in way more general, affecting as less as possible what the artist has done and achieve a good translation... and volume.

Greetings to all, it is my first post, i hope you all have a good day.

-Qu4zar

 

hmmm multiband compression for me depends on what I'm doing. For example, mastering this ambient album I'm thinking I really don't need multiband compression here, cuz it already sounds amazing the way it is.

MBC in mastering can be used for different things, like sometimes you want to push up certain sounds in certain frequencies, or get a certain band heavier and harder. In this case you would choose the compression settings of attack and release the same way you would in a normal mix, BUT the ratios should be very subtle, high ratios will make you sounds over compressed.

A little make-up gain doesnt hurt for each band, but again, just be light and easy, you don't want to do too much. One of my mistakes learning mastering was going to hard with upwards compression, saturation and multiband compression. In time, you learn to take it easy and realise that you just need to be light on it.

But again, it depends on the type of song. But even if I was doing a heavy dance track, I would do multiband compression lightly.

I recommend Fabfilter Pro-MB as a good starting point to learn multiband compression, FF has great help tips on it and im sure you can find some good tutorials to help you.

Remember, you don't always have to Multiband Compress... sometimes even a limiter is enough for a master. You just need to train your ears to understand when and what is important where. This happens by continous listening and learning of the plugins that you have.

Heck, even now I'm still discovering things about compression I'd have no idea about...and forgetting about them in the process

 

Most of u are getting it wrong here about the phrase "to the pros only"......... There are people who can handle or loves working with mb compressors than single band and likewise the other way round. I was simply refering to those who knows how to use the multiband compressor here. If you know how to why not simply drop your post if you can, its not just only me, there are lots of people who will benefit from the thread.
Lets show some love to ourselves, thats what matters most in life

Thank you. And to all who posted sharing their knowledge a BIG Thank You.

 

Theorically, lets give it a deep taught, dont you think mb compressors beats a single band compressor hands down?
Considering mb compression its been used properly and you know what you are doing especially for submixes and mastering
Whereas single band will work for just colouring the sound during mastering.

 

well single band and multiband are used for different levels of control so depending on what you want to achieve you will use both accordingly.

A single band is good for a single, overall compression of the whole sound, and you can use this in mastering as well depending on what idea you have for the finished product.

A multiband will have a different use case if you want to enhance different bands in different ways. Like sometimes I want to bring out the low, mids and highs more but I need to treat the thresholds differently since all three bands peak differently.

I never use single band compression for mastering but when I want to get a really loud sound going, I would use a mix of upwards compression using a single band compressor as well as a multiband compressor for just holding things together.

But as noted before, this doesn't have to be the case. Sometimes a little bit of single band downwards compression and a limiter is enough : )
Or even just a tiny bit of multiband compression on the lows, mids and highs and just a limiter.

 

No...
Use your eq properly and ballance your mix then you wont have to fix it with multiband compression.

 

Maybe you should have requested contributions from knowledgeable people instead of from pros I think that phrase was what triggered the lighthearted responses, which were made without malice, and as pointed out were quite humorous. Where I come from we call it an open goal, and they are sometimes difficult to resist Anyway, you got me thinking, was it an oxymoron. a paradox or a contradiction

 

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Jokes apart, I don't really like using multiband compression on the masterbus.

I'm not, by any means, a mastering engineer, but I read a lot. I've heard more than once that, if you mix things right, you won't need to use multiband compression later on, mostly because it's more of a fixing tool than a regular dynamics tool. My limited experience shows that this statement is most likely correct.

I understand that, sometimes, it's necessary to use them. When you master things to others, you won't always get properly balanced mixes to work with.

However, I don't think it's ideal to try to fix dramatic dynamic issues on the mastering stage. It's much wiser to do that while mixing.

 

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wrong, compression is inherent to change the phase slightly. splitting the signal and processing that is always going to produce artifacts intentionally or not. because u are changing the phase relations different over the frequency spectrum.

crossover filters can null with zero processing but that changes directly when compression kicks-in on one of the bands.

one of the alternatives is sidechaining the same input with enhanced frequency's in a normal compressor.
Or compressors like fabfilter pro-c or izotope vintage compressor which basically do the same.

 

I actually like the 7 and 8 band Compressors used by TV to even out music channels. But we are talking mp3 anyway mostly.
You can check these out if your interested. Starting point. http://www.bswusa.com/Broadcast-On-Air-Processing-Omnia.11-FMHD-P4209.aspx

 

Sometime i wonder if u guyz can hear the phase artifact on mb comp.... Lol.