Is music making a random process?

Discussion in 'Education' started by foster911, Feb 7, 2016.

  1. Mundano

    Mundano Audiosexual

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    Seriously, my experience:

    1. First of all PLAYING like a child, no rules.
    2. accomplishing the best ideas from step 1.
    3. IMPROVISING on the ideas step 2.
    4. SELECTING the best from step 3.
    5. INTEGRATING another ideas, stuff to step 4. (for step 5. amending method step 1.-4.)
    6. PAUSE (beer, sex, movies, video-games, open air, drugs)
    7. GENERAL VIEW and REVISING
    8. COMPARING to something similar, references (audio quality, musical instrumentalization), revising
    9. CONCLUDING (mix, master), TESTING (club, hi-fi, car audiosystem, home,etc)
    edit: 10. ...ah, letting anothers hear your music
     
  2. kouros

    kouros Platinum Record

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    Another question by the guy who started reading about marathon running not long ago and only went out of the house once or twice to take a walk.
     
  3. statik

    statik Audiosexual

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    randomness has given me some very good results, planning gave me some of the worst, unless it was a cover, doing a cover can only be partially random
     
  4. flashback23

    flashback23 Ultrasonic

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    Is music making a random process?

    only if you use fruity loops
     
  5. Funk U

    Funk U Platinum Record

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    But hey!! if we answer all his questions, he'll be able to do things we suggest just because he read them. Right??!
     
  6. audiowolf

    audiowolf Producer

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    1. With enlightenment, have an epiphany of a great musical idea.
    2. With excitement, rush to get idea down, but forget it when I try to use the glorious piano roll instead of one of my real instruments.
    3. With disappointment, create a new decent song idea to replace the old one in my heart.
    4. With high hopes of fame and fortune, try to build on it, spend hours tweaking knobs on a billion plugins and forget I'm supposed to be composing music.
    5. With frustration, realize rich musicians spend less time on an entire hit song than I do on a kick drum or hi-hat.
    6. With excuses, believe what I need is Moar Plugins, and put that project on hold with a confidence inspiring names like "Shitty track", ~Lamesong~ or "FUCKTHIS"
    7. With impatience, read/post on AudioSex about important issues like pig rearing and how to be a pro musical theorist without playing music.
    8. With new confidence, read manual for shiny new plugin that finished downloading.
    9. With huge brain filled with new techniques, go back to step 1.
    10. With desperation, realize moar plugins didn't help and decide the solution is definitely moar tutorials.
    11. With waning faith, watch random tutorials that may or may not be useful.
    12. With confusion and disillusionment, realize that every master-class tutorial I watch contradicts videos I've watched by other professionals.
    13. With depression, forget about music and do something less stressful.
    14. With great anticipation, look forward to tomorrow's next fun and productive music making session.

    Music was so much more simple when all I had was a guitar, a cheap casio keyboard and 8 track digital recorder. :dunno:

    To be honest, I think the most important part of making music isn't knowledge, technical skill, experience, or randomness, it's confidence. It's having the cojones to forge ahead with your music and not doubt it. I admire all the members on AudioSex who can do that.

    Songs don't have to be a technical masterpiece. It's art. It's supposed to come out naturally. The technical skill should come naturally as your music making progresses.

    The moment you try to climb Mt Everest with no experience walking up hills is like signing your musical death sentence. Sure, it's "possible" but you'll lose interest in doing it again! :wink:
     
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  7. @audiowolf ... Absofuckinglutely..."Songs don't have to be a technical masterpiece. It's art. It's supposed to come out naturally. The technical skill should come naturally as your music making progresses." and/though

    7. With impatience, read/post on AudioSex about important issues like pig rearing and how to be a pro musical theorist without playing music....

    I sing a song about a pig
    I never would have sung
    About a pig I never knowd
    Had thantrax not delivered
    Never would I, would I have thought...
    Contemplated doing
    This all but not impossible
    This act of non-agreeing
    Though every thing you said before
    And those that would come after
    Ring the bell of "yea, that works"
    I, writing through my laughter
    But now this song it comes along
    So easy was the doing
    And thanks to you, dear audiowolf
    The proof is in the pudding:cheers:
     
  8. ArticStorm

    ArticStorm Moderator Staff Member

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    the more you add the random part to it, the more fun it makes, because you dont know where you land, if you really land somewhere. i found out if i handle it that way, i can get some good results.

    but well i like to experiment also a lot, this maybe works not for EDM or genres, which have fixed structures.

    for example i know some places in my city, where i can play piano, record that and then use it in a piece or let my inspire a bit from it, the musical process shouldnt be linear, because you always need space to generate something new. Something i think, some genres lack a lot.
     
  9. The Teknomage

    The Teknomage Rock Star

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    You can experiment with EDM; like removing the kick. Structures in music are like grammar in language; a guide not the be all and end all. Dance music is just that; music you can dance to.
     
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  10. foster911

    foster911 Guest

    The vexing part of my musical life is not being able to interconnect the classic and the modern paradigms. I feel some times that meditating on either of them, makes different humans from us.

    Do you see contradictions between them? How to overcome that problem? Do you believe in rehashing?

    Please listen to below strident sound. Just 2 notes but who can discover its puissant effect on ears by just sitting all of his or her life behind a piano or other wooden or iron-alloyed instruments and following musty and out of ark knowledge being shouted by mid-Vectorians.

    Getting inspired is like getting haunted by daemons. Unfortunately, having classical view in music is not the perpetual source of my inspirations.

    The underneath base of the electronics science (moving of electrons) is randomization but controlled randomization. Classical sciences do not pay much attentions to the probabilities and makes every thing rigid.

    http://www.mediafire.com/listen/i4b9js3su3iq9hz/1.mp3
     
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