Hitachi hard disks, deskstar 7k3000 or 7k4000

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  1. Pereira

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    It's not so easy to find here HGST products, and more than this, it's not so clear for me what product could be more suitable for my needs: sufficently fast but reliable audio libraries storage.
    I was oriented to buy a 2 Tb deskstar 7k3000, seeing its high reliability reports, but I see there is a 7k4000 version available: is this a new one or a different option? And what are the differences between them?
    Looking for infos on internet I wasn't able to find clear further tech details, and I saw that 7k3000 is more exopensive than 7k4000 (same seller, same capacity).....a strange case of a new product that costs more then the previous....really confused.
    I don't want to add the other doubts about deskstar and ultrastar options, even becouse I can't find any seller in my area with a 2 Tb availability for these versions.
    WD marketing policy seems to be more effective than HGST One, I use WD Black units (1Tb) from time and it's really clear the difference between them and red, blue, green available options. Probably I will buy it again, even if it costs a lot (the 2Tb version) and the deskstar seems to have a better reliability.
    I hope that somebody can help me.
    Thanks ain advance
     
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  3. Voo

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    I had a deskstar go bad a year ago. I'm kinda spooked by that and the last 2 drives I've been using toschibas.

    Either way microcenter.com has information on the deskstars as they carry that line.
     
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    I've never tried that brand, so I can't give an opinion. But I can tell that I used to be a Seagate boy, until something went wrong and someone recommended WD Red for my NAS (Where I keep all my audio stuff, music, etc. I even record directly to it). Never had a problem. I am now a proud WD boy

    :bleh:
     
  5. Pereira

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    I am too, proud Blacks owner :winker:. Reds seem to be 5400 rpm, and I'm not so sure it can be good for kontakt libs.......
     
  6. Xupito

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    Lucky guys... I don't know if I'll ever get over the WD 300GB Velocirraptor trauma :suicide:
     
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    If you can afford it (and your system can handle it), get a SATA RAID card and set up a RAID 1 (mirrored) with two of those drives. Yes, it costs more, and you 'lose' half of that hard drive space, but you get the benefits of speedy I/O and fault-tolerance.

    If you wanna get *really* fancy, get a USB3 RAID enclosure, throw 4 hard drives in, and set it up as RAID 1+0. Put your OS on a small SSD. That's what I have set up at home, and it's never given me any issues. Great read/write for storage, and fault tolerant.
     
  8. jayxflash

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    Go for WD Black series (for enterprise use, 7k rpm). I have 6 of them (1 TB), purchased 5 years ago, no problems at all. Also had 2x350 GB WD Blacks used as system drive in RAID0 configuration, no failures at all. Now I replaced them with an SSD.
     
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    NO DESKSTARS. Seriously. They are as bad as the WD Greens and Blacks. Just JUNK. Or Ocz SSDs. Garbage.

    Get Samsung. Or older Hitachi. Or Seagate. OR just go SSD.
     
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  10. megablox

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    Dont get seagate
     
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  11. grdh20

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    neither. Buy and "enterprise" drive. Either Seagate or HGST. You've been warned. Don't be cheap in the short run...
     
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  12. SineWave

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    I have just bought another Seagate ST1000DM003 because they're fabulous drives [only one 1TB platter, quiet, cool]. It seems like Seagate got over their quality issues. I also have a bunch of Toshiba 2.5" 500GB HDs for archiving and they've been great so far. I wouldn't know about HGST drives, though, but what I do know, or rather "know from Internet" is that they should be quite reliable. Can't you find any PDFs online to check the difference between the 3000 and 4000 models?

    I found an interesting article about 3-4TB hard disks at Tom's Hardware: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/4tb-3tb-hdd,3183.html Maybe you can find some answers there. 7k4000 is newer and better, as far as I can tell. :wink:

    So according to the article I would suggest you to buy HGST 7k4000 model, or Seagate Barracuda but with more platters reliability goes down. 2TB Seagate has 2 platters which is still not that bad, but one is the best. 2TB HGST has 3 platters, it seems. That's not good in my book. Neither for quiet operation, nor for reliability.

    Cheers!
     
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    I've never had any problems with any 1 platter hard disks, and I've got HDs here that are 10 or more years old. Seems like this "one platter philosophy" works well. All my computers [I make for myself and my clients] are also very silent and cool. :wink:

    The only problem I have ever had with a hard disk, and I have to tell you that I used and use a lot of hard disks, is a 2 platter [or more? can't remember] 4GB IBM Deskstar from ~2000 and a Seagate 1TB with 2 platters from 2013. Seagate one still works well actually, but it's not 100% reliable. Deskstar is having problems with the electric-motor so it's very unreliable and I just keep it for kicks. It's a legendary faulty IBM HD! :wink:
     
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  14. Voo

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    This thread reminds me
    I found a WD 10k rpm VelociRaptor in my closet the other day.. remember those lol

    Too small for me to use, I think its the 500 gb one
    If I put anything in my computer these days its 3 tb up
     
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    Oh, oh yeah. WD blacks for Kontakt and connected locally, of course. Best stuff out there for me. Red is only for the NAS, I should have specified.
     
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    Back when IBM owned the Deskstar line, the drives were infamously known as "Deathstars" because of their high rate of failure, just as an addendum to what @SineWave already said.

    Mentioned more for comedic value than anything of relevance today.
     
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    Very interesting. When I bought my last hard drives Seagate was the leader in density, in other words less platters. Specially attractive for doing RAID0 because they were (the Barracuda 1TB rev13, perhaps 12) half the height of a regular 3.5 HDD and they breathe and dissipate heat better.

    I bought 3 of them amd put in RAID0. I know, crazy move. In fact I bought 2 more to replace the first and second bodies lol which at the moment I use for backup in a HDD dock. 500+ MBs the first TB, hell yeahhhh haha :headbang:
     
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    Seagate still leads in density. :wink: These new ST1000DM003 drives are excellent! 1 platter, quiet, and fast at 200MB/s peak sequential read performance. I'm glad I bought it despite my other 1TB-2 platter Seagate being unreliable. Nr. of platters definitely counts. :wink: I would put two of these in RAID0, too, but I just keep away from RAID setups, just in case [of catastrophe]. Maybe RAID1 would be a better idea.

    Cheers!
     
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    HGST for internal laptop. WD (...or reluctantly Seagate, if on sale) for internal desktop. WD - exclusively - for external 2.5" and 3.5" USB 3.0 drives for me.
     
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