Are high capacity HDD's stable?

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  1. MrRobRancor

    MrRobRancor Ultrasonic

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    Hey guys, I currently have a 1 tb hdd for my samples, a 240 gb ssd for boot drive and a 128 gb ssd for session data. My problem is that I'm running out of space on my 1 tb hdd for my samples. My question is Are higher capacity HDD's stable? I was looking into a 4 tb hdd. Would it be better to get 4 1 tb hdds and run them in raid? thanks for any help guys cheers
     
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  3. luki3

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    No anything over 1TB forget it.

    This is after I've had 2x2tb go done after 6 months and lost everything from the last 8 years.

    Going RAID is better you will have 4 times the bandwidth with 4xTB HDD or go 8 times bandwidth 8 x500gb, 16 times bandwidth 16x 250gb
    but use RAID 5 .
     
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  4. mithu

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    Ehh depends on how you take care of them and quality.
    Buying a cheap HDD, of course they'll die.
    SSD for samples is not worth the cost at all. If you dont move around much (aka work on project on laptop and PC) then set up a RAID NAS system.
     
  5. Nightwalker

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    well what i always do is to have another backup,for example i have 2x2tb external hard drives,the second 2tb HD is a backup of the first 2tb hd,that way if my first hard drive starts to fail i have a backup in my other HD.
     
  6. trrtac

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    always have at least basic redundancy for data, your neurons will love you, you'll sleep better.
    not a big fan of RAID (on a workstation) but a drag and drop copy to 2+ physical locations matters a lot
    never all eggs in the same (old) basket.
    as for the drives, look for user benchmarks: rotational drives have 1 or more platters
    search for big capacity on fewer platters. and buy 2 of those.
     
  7. MrRobRancor

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    great thanks for all the help guys!!
     
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    i Have 3 2TB Drives and 1 4TB Drive Gong String for about 5 Years Now ( Knock on Wood ) lol i think it also Depends Like was said you have to do maintenance on them Like defragging and Stuff im on a Mac to and you Have to Buy Good Quality Hard Drive i Have a Frind that use Mac to But He is Fucking Cheap and always Buy cheap Shit Hard Drive from Best Buy and and they Go out on him he dose not fucking learn to stop buying cheap crap
     
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  10. grdh20

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    Get an "Enterprise" rated drive 3-5-6-8 tb capacity. HGST have the lowest failure rates . I recently bought a Seagate Enterprise 7tb drive. Very good so far. 7200 spin, 256mb cache.
     
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    I believe 2.5tb is the current max per platter, so hard drives larger than this are using two platters which means twice the moving parts therefore twice the chance of failure. I've said this in other posts, but I'm not buying another hard drive till I get something like a 4 bay NAS enclosure and run it in raid.
     
  12. Zenarcist

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    I only use large HDD for offline storage and has rare occasional use. For operational HDD stick to small drives and keep a spare handy.
     
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    my very own opinion:

    stay away from seagate (even their enterprice products suck), luckyli all my seagates died during the first 12 months (<50h use), the replacement drives were sold on ebay, seagate never ever again - some dell branded harddrives in their enterprise servers are manufactured by seagate

    SMR technology (4tb+) for continious offline backups only (where data is just added) is ok
    (up to 3tb) for backups where data is manipulated on regular basis (pre SMR tech, will be mostlikely PMR tech)
    live drives and RAID (max 3tb should be ok, id rather tend to use 2tb per drive in raid) - RAID with SMR drives (4tb+) is a def NO GO!

    you cant go wrong with drives at 2tb capacity for any purpose - 1tb drives got too expensive

    id suggest to do the raid way only for the live data that is important and a offline backup is not an option (recording) - proper offline backups are more important - RAID doesnt replace a backup

    the performance gain from RAID isnt that big at all, if youre after speed prefer the ssd.
     
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    Stay away from seagate..
    Im a Poor owner of the 3tb suicide disk...
     
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  15. jayxflash

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    I have 8 x 1 TB Western Digital Black series since 5-6 years. Not one of them failed until now. They running in a NAS, accessed daily, when needed.
     
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  17. MrRobRancor

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    heck yea free shipping
     
  18. Enoch007

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    Me fuckin too..
     
  19. junh1024

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    This is at least the 3rd Time I'ved replied to a HD topic. I'll repost my own content

    I'd say <6000rpm 2.7TB bare drives in a PC case should be pretty good by now, possibly 3.6TB.

    Larger HDs (4.5TB+) may use shingling which makes some rewrites slower.


    Source: http://www.seagate.com/au/en/products/enterprise-servers-storage/nearline-storage/archive-hdd/ >3.6TB



      1. ST Barracuda 7200rpm 2.7TB 2013 (RMA'd in 2013 due to bad sectors)
      2. ST Barracuda 7200rpm 2.7TB 2013 (retired in 2014 due to degrading seek, but SMART OK)
      3. ST NAS 5900rpm 2.7TB 2014 OK in 2016
    1. WD GREEN 5400rpm 1.4TB 2010 (retired in 2013 due to bad sectors)
    2. WD GREEN 5400rpm 1.8TB 2011 (retired in due to upgrades, succesfully unretired in 2015)
    3. WD GREEN 5400rpm 2.7TB 2012 OK in 2016
    4. WD RED 5400rpm 2.7TB 2013 OK in 2016
    https://audiosex.pro/threads/8tb-cold-storage-hdd.21915/#post-154651
    https://audiosex.pro/threads/hard-drive-recommendations.17712/page-2#post-131276
     
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    Bet you wish you saw this

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    It's actually really not funny. I'd shit several bricks if this happened to me
     
  21. junh1024

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    Also, nothing will save you if you don't have a HD BU plan &/ check your HD health regularly.
     
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