Enlighten me about special Fl Studio "sound designing" features, distinguishing it from others, since I assume you imply here that there's something special about it when it comes to "sound design" and I don't know about it, so what is it...?

Does it even have warp markers? or are we talking here about two de-tuned saws with reverbs, choruses and what not, kind of "sound design"? ... with a dub-step beat of course...

 

Sorry for my impoliteness. I do apologize!
But you should feel it during self working. There are millions of instrument and effect stuffs in the market but if you'd look from the sound designing perspective you'd know that FL stock plugins are enough for any imagination. BTW I am not talking about the reverse engendering or so. Just turning any idea in your mind to reality. I admit that some effects are preliminary but I'm sure after GUI changing they would invest on them because they want to be number one. Believing in the DAWs is more than believing in GOD or anything because without that you'd loose your confidence during learning.

For better feeling, download below tutorials and watch them minute by minute and compare FL with other DAWs before any judgement. Specially the first one. It's not about the DAW itself but just Harmor (The complicated synth in the market in my opinion)

http://www.sonicacademy.com/Trainin...o-Use-FL-Studio-Harmor-with-SeamlessR.cid7742
http://www.sonicacademy.com/Trainin...Video-Tutorial-Level-1-with-SeamlessR.cid6953
http://www.sonicacademy.com/Trainin...Video-Tutorial-Level-2-with-SeamlessR.cid6989
http://www.sonicacademy.com/Trainin...-Make-Electro-House-2014-in-FL-Studio.cid6799
http://www.sonicacademy.com/Trainin...Bass-2014-With-SeamlessR-in-FL-Studio.cid6862
http://www.sonicacademy.com/Trainin...ahcore-with-SeamlessR-in-FL-Studio-12.cid7797
This guy is very advanced user of FL.

 

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Of course yes. But, as every other stuff in fl studio, it can be achieved with very special way.

Show me at least few dubstep tracks from beatport chart with those kind of sound design.

 

I see, so it's about a synth which is also can be purchased separately.

1. The first search for "fl studio warp markers" results in google showing this: so apparently it can't be done, like it can be in almost all major DAWs.
https://www.reddit.com/r/edmproduct..._is_there_a_proper_way_to_warp_samples_in_fl/

2. Beatport? that's you who should impress me with sound design examples, not me to waste time, looking for retarded tracks on beatport or whatever... edit: sound design capabilities, which would excel other DAWs.
https://pro.beatport.com/chart/must-hear-dubstep/378753
https://pro.beatport.com/chart/must-hear-dubstep/378753
https://pro.beatport.com/chart/must-hear-dubstep/378753

Scrap that, pick any you want, it's all detuned saws with a dub-step beat under, yes I'm generalizing..., but should I be impressed with any of those tracks, should I see some marvelous "sound design" "achievements" in that utter catatonic software generated crap? and what about FL Studio? that shit can be done on tetris, with 220v applied to the circuit and frying circuit noise recorded and it would sound more listenable, than that catatonic abomination on beat port.
https://pro.beatport.com/chart/must-hear-dubstep/378753

 

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Ok, Do and select what you want because there is not a single way for approaching goals. Loving or hating something is an internal feeling that can not be described or accepted by others more.

 

1) Google? So you have no idea what are you talking about. The only "General" thing you should notice is there's no such word as "Proper" in music in general, and in creative process especially.
2) Wonderful, beautiful tracks. And I'm sure that 9/10 sound from any track from that chart can not be achieved with your deep sound design knowledge base.

Yes, you should.

This will be pretty informative for you.

 

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1. So prove how I have no idea and show me warp markers in FL studio?
2. Utter catatonic over-compressed/limited literally incomprehensible, no talent, tasteless collage of crap.
9 out of 10, wow, you sure know where to place your bets... 9 out of 10 is either a saw or square wave mindlessly distorted/pitch-bend-ed... to achieve 10 out of 10, one only have to randomly generate a preset on any synth, which have such a function and then run it through a distortion... and that's the literal story of those guys life, who make that kind of tracks, otherwise what kind of wank-job would purposely sit in front of a computer and try to "create" such a sound...

3.Informative about CUBASE? 'cause that's what I see in that thumbnail...

When you gonna try to come back, try with number 1, and show me how you do warp markers in fl. Because neither 2. nor 3. got anything to do with FL Studio or whatever... and your talented sound design achievement hallmarks boil down to nothing, but just random presets and distortion... try to make a few and send them to Eric Persing or some composer, let's see how you'll fare having such a refined grasp of random catatonia... such talents must be in great demand, they're not? why? maybe because anyone can generate a random preset and run it through distortion with a dub-step beat? maybe that's why you have countless comments under youtube videos where kids wish they had born in 80s/90s because music these days is POS.

You have to look hard.... look hard for good music? that just proves my and those kids point, that music these days is POS, if you have to look hard to find anything descent...

Come back with number 1... because I don't listen to crap, so I'm not interested how much you love random pitch shifted POS...

Edit: just scrolled through that video, guess what? somewhere in the middle a guy tries to pointlessly load random samples in that granular or whatever synth and generate something RANDOMLY until it sounds good.. this is sound design? generating randomly until it sounds good? Talent!
Scrolled to the end and what's the pinnacle point of the track? Any Guesses? De-tuned saws... unprecedented sound design, learned shit load of tricks... packing my things as I type this, going to Hollywood...

 

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just putting here the GUI of Bitwig(1080p full screen) so u can compare

 

I don't have installed Fl so enjoy first random tutorial from youtube.

Lol so angry boy...

Who is that?

 

1. at 7:40 and then you playback that file using midi notes? is this for real?

Watched your Cubase video, here's a summary:
just scrolled through that video, guess what? somewhere in the middle a guy tries to pointlessly load random samples in that granular or whatever synth and generate something RANDOMLY until it sounds good.. this is sound design? generating randomly until it sounds good? Talent!
Scrolled to the end and what's the pinnacle point of the track? Any Guesses? De-tuned saws... unprecedented sound design, learned shit load of tricks... packing my things as I type this, going to Hollywood...
That just literally proved my "random presets" theory... way to shoot yourself in a foot, by posting that video as an example of "sound design"... in Cubase...

 

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You can warp samples and just drag it to playlist without slicing and without midi triggers.

Predictably. Good luck.

 

RC2 is out...

WHAT's NEW RC2
Fixes four small bugs (removing steps in channel rack, envelope zoom in WaveShaper, font size in Big Clock and missing sample in Umziki song)

DL
http://demodownload.image-line.com/flstudio/flstudio_12.2.exe

 

Tool is a tool. Professional bullshit is professional bullshit. FL has everything required to make professional sounding music. The only difference is that in order to do some things you have to use workarounds which can be tedious and time consuming.

 

It is a professional tool since I am a professional because I make a living out of it, I don't have a separate job, it's keeping food on the table for me, my girlfriend and daughter.

personally I hate the word professional because by my opinion it suggest to be better then amateurish, which it is not.

summing everything up, I really don't care, costumer is king around here. whether I have a tracking, producing or advising role. most studio's I regularly visit/work at have multiple daws to choose from.

if a costumer is stubborn, or just wants pro tools for the looks of it I'm fine with that. I'm working on the clock and can only advice what is smart to do and explain the pro's and con's. it's their time & money

 

As professional as a house without doors, it has all the required beds for your professional sleep, the only difference is that in order to get in you have to crawl through a window.... where's mute, solo buttons? oh that one green dot with mute/solo functionality, mute solo buttons are so outdated in professional music recording production environment, who needs if you can just crawl through a window and make yourself at home...

Can you go back and tweak some of the markers and not do all from scratch?

Predictable you say? remember the part where I've mentioned your uncanny ability to place bets? So here is me wondering how did you predict it, by posting a 4 hours long video, that a non-retarded person will scroll through it, instead of watching it, considering that video is made by a hamster sitting for 4 hours straight in front of a computer, loading random samples in a granular synth and expecting to come across something he might use, and in the end he finishes with a few bars of super-saws cliche crap, it makes me wonder why I didn't watch it all and how did you predict it....

 

I'm a Batman.

 

Avvici makes a "living" to with it too, but making tetris knock off melodies typed in in fl studio proves it's toy status.

If you're as professional as in your personal life, then it explains your view about amateurs, because there's a difference between a wife and girlfriend... I guess you don't see a difference there too, who cares if a child is yours or not, as long as you get laid, right...

Professional is not better than amateurish... so Michelangelo is no better than some college wannabe art student... John Lenon is no better than avvici, who's John Lenon? I don't know...

 

You're obsessed with "professional" label lol. FL probably won't be a good choice if you own the recording studio and working with artists to make money because time is money and you can't afford wasting time on things that should be straightforward. BUT in the home studio there's nothing in FL that prevents you from making master pieces of any genre and earn millions, well, except the solo/mute buttons.
I was a long time FL user and recently switched to Ableton because it's easier to get good results. I'm aware of FL problems but characterising it as a toy requires reality check. So far you didn't provide any serious argument in support of your claims.
Stop bitching about Avvici cause shitty music is made on all DAW's.

 

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FL Studio 12.2 Latest Official Release
Content differs from the Reg's because this is the new one.

Home Page:
http://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=151350

DL:
http://demodownload.image-line.com/flstudio/flstudio_12.2.exe

Rush because of the new year and sale reasons. There are lots of works have to be done.

 

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It has been nice talking to you, I could go on and on about it being a toy, all it takes is just to look at it's mixer.... right away it's obvious how professional it is... one plugin is delay compensated, the next is not.... you yourself provide arguments to label it as a toy... I just have to watch...
Is it true that it's mixer fades show 0-127 numerical value instead of decibels? that's professional... mastering guys are probably all over it... unless a mastering guy is 15yo, who loads Ozone plugin and picks a preset which he likes most... in that case there's no question that he won't deal with a toy DAW like FL Studio, will he? no way... I bet on it. Because he needs precise dB readouts, fl won't cut it for just loading presets in Ozone for him...

 

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