Will i get a fine for downloading from Audioz in Deutschland?

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  1. Xyenz Fyxion

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    thanks. •_•
     
  2. Mostwest

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    Can you please explain a little bit?
     
  3. If you are driving and roll through a stop sign at 3am you are most likely not going to be caught unless the police are there or are remotely reviewing the camera that overlooks the intersection. If they are watcbing for this kind of behavior they will be recording it for prosecurial evidence to be used against you as proof of your actions.
     
  4. ArticStorm

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    they have bots, who collect evidence. there are special companies doing. (for public torrenting)
     
  5. Mostwest

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    How to perform "private" torrenting
     
  6. ArticStorm

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    private tracker with password and account. dont use openbt trackers like kick.ass torrents or whatever. private trackers are not spied on.
     
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  7. fraifikmushi

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    I dunno. There are fairly large "private" trackers out there. Oink was busted and I'm sure it was undermined, too. Getting invites is not so difficult if you really want to (social engineering) and there are people who's only job is to bust p2p'ers.
     
  8. ArticStorm

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    well i think it depends on the things shared on the private tracker, when there is only audio software, samples etc shared, but nothing mainstream like blockbuster movies or crappy pop music, then this private tracker is double safe, because nobody of the audio companies has the money to bust those pages/trackers.

    @korte1975 the law and there are lawyers specified in copyright law and they also work together with this bot companies, sometimes they own such a bot company to search internet for the clients products and then claim money, because the law granted it.

    thats why there are no interest group for audio software like for hollywood movies ...
     
  9. Obineg

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    in einem mietvertrag, zumal bei airb&b, kann alles vereinbart werden, was einem gefällt.

    sobald du eine vereinbarung darüber schließt, dass du eine strafe bezahlen wirst wenn du dir mickey mouse videos im fernsehen anschaust, gilt genau das, was vereinbart wurde.
     
  10. No Avenger

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    1. Glückwunsch, Du hast gerade einen 5,5 Jahre alten Thread wiederbelebt und
    2. sind Verträge/Forderungen, die gegen geltendes Recht verstoßen, unwirksam. Deswegen darf man z. B. in Mietverträgen bei manchen Sachen auch lügen.
     
  11. hayabusa

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    Hi,
    unfortunately, I can answer your question...
    AUDIOZ : no risk at all.
    TORRENTS: you will be definitely fined if you own an internet connection in your name...if not, the owner will be! Guaranteed! By the way, some nice guys are used to crack your internet connection to do so...when not in my flat, switching off my router...
    How does it work exactly...simple in Germany...WarnerBros ask a lawyer cabinet to ask Kabel Deutschland to fined me...gosh, full in German in my mailbox and on top they ask you to sign a paper...didn't know what was that but I asked for a translation in my own language...never been contacted anymore...total to pay: 900€ +70€ of lawyer procedure...Enjoy!
    ANSWER to this f***** procedure: "AllDebrid"...all is sorted out!
    regarding my colleagues on Streaming(illegal one of course!), it seems to be a grey area in this country so... I would recommend: you don't...
    Some sites also won't be reachable directly so you will need a VPN...
    At the hotel, no risk at all...
    Hope it answers your question.
    SHUSS
     
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  12. Obineg

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    there are a lot of people who are telling all kind of stories, but it is impossible.

    in germany, copyright violations are applications offenses and searching and downloading a file is the only thing which is not even illegal if the rightholder places one.

    the criminal act begins when the download is finished, because then you eventually also store the file. or use it. or make further copies. or upload it again. those actions are all illegal. ;)
     
  13. Obineg

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    oops :P

    es verstößt weder gegen geltendes recht in einem beherbergungsvertrag zu regeln, dass jemand nicht mithilfe der mitvermieteten internetanbindung nicht gegen das urheberecht verstößt noch wird ein vertrag dadurch unwirksam.

    solche dinge sind da auch wohl in AGBs geregelt und eine salvatorische klausel ist da regelmäßig zulässig.

    mal davon abgesehen, dass eine komplette nichtigkeit des rechtsgeschäft in der praxis nur erst recht bedeuten würde, dass er augenblicklich ausziehen muss. :)

    was ich mich übrigens schon beim lesen der frage gefragt habe ist, was einen vermieter/anbieter wohl dazu reitet, solche absurden dinge zu verlangen? er weiß doch wer die leitung benutzt hat und kann mögliche schadenersatzforderungen an den verursacher weiterleiten.
     
  14. Howard Carpendale

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    Wrong and at right place even equal .
     
  15. ArticStorm

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    It depends what you torrent, not if you torrent.

    If nobody cares if you download some sample packs, nobody will fine you.
     
  16. Hazen

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    In Germany you might get an "Abmahnung" (cease and desist order which is billed to you, typically in the range of 200 - 1000 €) from a specialised legal business that are contracted by content owners to prosecute rights violators. This can become quite costly and for some years this was a big money making machine for lawyers and content owners alike.

    Since the German courts have been overburdened with these cases, the application of law has been since changed a bit, meaning that no longer every case will result in judicial consequences.

    Yet, you should especially stay away from torrents, which are easy to track down and continue to be monitored by commercial law firms to fine violators (they have the right to demand the IP and personal data from the telecommunication providers by German law, so it's really easy for them to track you down in no time).

    These online file lockers are save for now, but they might be eventually raided by law enforcement and IP & personal data could be compromised in the process, if permanently stored and not encrypted correctly, so there is a probability of legal consequences in the future, even when it seems unlikely currently. Similar busts happened in the past and users of such copyright infringing portal have been fined.
     
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    a friend of mine was fined 2000 euro.
    I send him stuff from Italy.
     
  19. Howard Carpendale

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    BTW downloading illegal content from oneclick is also still illegal but you cant get fucked, like you dont get fuckedc using a proper vpn with not so good torrent sites .When you as german use puplic german trackers well then you:deep_facepalm:
     
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  20. Howard Carpendale

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    Via torrent?
     
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