Too many VST's?

Discussion in 'Working with Sound' started by Duu, Jun 10, 2011.

  1. pilz971

    pilz971 Kapellmeister

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    HELL YEAH!

    Your Uninstaller has worked her magic!

    I gotta tell ya, once You start it becomes almost liberating! I just kinda went MAD and followed the TOP PLUGZ only line of thought. I must have culled a good 75% of my vst folder!

    MASSIVE THANK YOU to ALL who have given such cool advice. I can finally open Ableton and not trip over 1000 plugz.

    Here`s to creating music, not collecting software! :wink:
     
  2. Lord Gaga

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    "The trouble begins with a design philosophy that equates “more options” with “greater freedom.” In my experience, the instruments and tools that endure (because they are loved by their users) have limited options."

    Brian Eno in Wired Magazine, 1999
     
  3. lysergyk

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    it's funny to see that we're all more or less going through the same thing!

    I did the same years ago, but then realized that I just needed to have some good tool (basically nowadays they're all good)
    not millions of them and that knowing their characteristics perfectly and how to use them is what is going to make a
    difference...not the tools themselves

    it's a bit different for VSTi though as they all have their colour and tonal characteristics...but still it's the same...
    if you have omnisphere for example, you already have all the synth you need, if you have the vienna or EWQL banks that's all
    the strings woods etc you'll ever need, superior drummer has all the drumkits...so when it comes to vsti, i just tend to favour
    those with larger soundbanks/libraries (provided I like the sound ofc)
     
  4. google

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    i saw the list and i though i'll have to check them out ..........lol..........

    what about too many sample packs or too many presets :)


    my 2 fave tutorials on this are

    Robin Millar
    Recording as a way of Life
    TVU Making Records

    sounds dull as shit but it was great it was on Computer music or future music
    very dedicated to not pissing about in the studio and remembering why you bother.


    --

    and for electro house the Ramirez tutorials are good
     
  5. google

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    i've posted the Robin Millar TVU vid on AZ forum ,should be there later

    here is a quick clip of the guy.(the other video is more structured)

    the TVU video is really good for thinking a bit bigger - and really recommended

     
  6. Detritus777

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    I completely agree with Budz - sure. But I would like to add some "additional thoughts":

    It depends what music you make. For example Vangelis or J.M.Jarre had the possibility to use (or just tryout) almost all the synth gear that was available at the time. Did they made bad music? well it is a matter of taste. I like it. If you don't like it you can stop reading here -><-.

    But - (in the case of Vangelis) he had his big favourites like the Yamaha CS-80, Roland VP330 and a few others. Vangelis used in almost every song the CS-80 - not always as lead, in some songs just a noise in the background.

    So this is another way of making music. Having favourites, but always trying out the other stuff. Today with all the VSTi/VST's it is a bit different, sure. You really have to limit yourself. It is not possible to try out them all.

    Another thing of Vangelis creative process: He tries to "let it flow". When he starts to make a song he don't know exactly what he wants to do. So he is improvising together with the electronic gear.

    To make it clear: of course Vangelis an I do not know each other. These are things that he said on the few interviews he gave during the years.

    For me it melts down to this: You have to keep the balance. The same with "creativity enhancers" like weed. You are playing with fire, you have to keep the balance and this is not easy. You MUST have some sort of discipline (like Budz already said).

    Cheers
    Chris
     
  7. google

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    this is getting to be a cool post but with like 200 different ideas

    http://audioz.info/study/video-tutorials/29392-download_tvu-making-records-robin-millar-inspirational-video-from-tvufuture-music.html

    i posted the Rob Millar tutorial on AZ. its really worth a watch
     
  8. Gulliver

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    Thank you google, but your link is only downloadable for premium users.
    I could download it with the help of the site drum king posted in one other thread, but still it would be nice if you would post a link, which is also downloadable for free users. :bow:
     
  9. pilz971

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    Thanks for following up with the vid GOOGLE.

    This forum really is shaping up to be a HOT HOT HOT place to visit!

    THANK YOU ALL!!! :mates:
     
  10. Guitarmaniac64

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    Yes i think we all have been there i agree with budz.
    I often find that i have those go to plugins i always use.
    But my pluginfolder is overblown with plugins.
    Thankfully all new DAW:s except Live don´t count the plugins when startup.
    Only the newest installed is counted and in Reaper you even have a field called NEW wich i think is awesome and every DAW should have.

    I have a template with a basic rock/pop song with some tracks
    drums = kick,snare.Hihat,toms,overhead,
    3 Guitar tracks 2 bass tracks 2 synth tracks 1 vocal and 1 backing vocal

    Everytime i try a new plugin i open that template to hear how it sounds but i almost always keep the plugin instead of delete it.

    I often think hmm maybe some day i need this "what bullshit"
    Many of them i have never used since that testing and it has gone several years now.
     
  11. DjPeterMunch

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    Here is my narrowed down list:

    • Soundtoys - Can't live without them
    • Wizoo Reverb - Great
    • From my powercore I use the megareverb and the comp (with the sidechainer plug)
    • Antares Filter and Antares Tube I still use (Autotune, sure for fixing out of key saxofones etc).
    • Kjaerhus EQs.
    • WAVES package (I use the EQs a lot EQ6 and EQ10 mostly), the comps I use as well, especially the C1 SC (for removing "de-essing" unwanted stuff out of snares etc).
    • BATTERY 3!!!! Can't live without it. No factory Presets.
    • Believe it or not... but I have less then 15gb of samples. And I probably use around 100 mb of them. My Hi-End recorded (24 bit) 808 and 909 packs are key samples.
    • The WAVES spatial plugs.
    • I use the Sonnox EQ sometimes
    • WAVES Guitar emulation (I use the amp simulators a lot with guitars, drums, moogs etc).
    • I used to use the Ohmboys all the time... but the soundtoys have taken over ... I still use the ohm echo thing (forgot the name of it).
    • VST Synths: the Korg legacy, Massive and my Virus TI (vst).
     
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