Windows 10 - 1 year left?

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  1. Garamondo Furbish

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    still there will be a microsoft salesbot on yer desktop everyday offering Windows12 now with more of whatever you clicked on last and 90 day office 365 sub for free (may require a credit card to unlock), etc, etc., its a treadmill with a new version dangling in front of your eyes and a crater full of malware and bad actors behind you if you fall off the treadmill there be gators in the waters unless you land on Linux Island and its motley crew..
     
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  2. xorome

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    You can force the ESU enrolment option to appear in Settings -> Update if you're on a fairly updated version of Windows 10:

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    Quoting abbodi86 from this thread:

    run Windows Powershell as administrator, copy and paste the following:

    Code:
    & reg.exe add "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Policies\Microsoft\FeatureManagement\Overrides" /v 4011992206 /t REG_DWORD /d 2 /f
    $TN = "ReconcileFeatures"; $TP = "\Microsoft\Windows\Flighting\FeatureConfig\"; $null = Enable-ScheduledTask $TN $TP
    Start-ScheduledTask $TN $TP; while ((Get-ScheduledTask $TN $TP).State.value__ -eq 4) {start-sleep -sec 1}; "Task Completed"
    #
    $TN = "UsageDataFlushing"; $TP = "\Microsoft\Windows\Flighting\FeatureConfig\"; $null = Enable-ScheduledTask $TN $TP
    Start-ScheduledTask $TN $TP; while ((Get-ScheduledTask $TN $TP).State.value__ -eq 4) {start-sleep -sec 1}; "Task Completed"
    #
    restart the system

    then run this in Command Prompt as administrator:

    Code:
    cmd /c ClipESUConsumer.exe -evaluateEligibility
    reg.exe query "HKCU\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Windows\ConsumerESU"
    If the result isn't 0x0, then you should see the enrolment option.
     
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  3. ArticStorm

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    As long as MS drops zero day patches for win 10 -- i will stay with it.

    They always did.

    I usually download these patches with external services, which directly grab them from MS update API, otherwise windows update will install crap on my system.

    Most of the windows updates are just bloat und make the system resource hungry or they alter settings, which i deactivated manual.
     
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  4. xorome

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    Microsoft are going to release another year of security updates for Windows 10 on the consumer ESU channel, until the 12th of October 2027. I'm not sure if that means they're also adding another year of security fixes for LTSC then (2032 -> 2033).
     
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    im still laughing at windows 11 :D

    so glad im still on windows 10.
     
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    These self imposed deadlines mean nothing at all since the update garbage is nothing but a ruse. Falling for the bullshit line of "update or die" is a fools errand. If there is some major security flaw or virus cure that affects the OS directly ms is bound by law to provide a universal patch to fix it outside the confines of their silly "update program". Beyond that, the rest is just junk.
     
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  7. clone

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    ^ Comments such as this seem to be one of the better reasons why people do not like AI fact checking things like wild statements. It doesn't have to type all this stuff out manually when you see claims like it made with little to nothing to back them up. Your OS = your problem, of course.

    That comment is mostly misinformation wrapped in confident language. Let’s break it down cleanly.

    1. “Self imposed deadlines mean nothing… update or die is a ruse”
    False.

    Windows 10 reaching end-of-support (EOL) is not arbitrary marketing language. It’s part of Microsoft’s published lifecycle policy. After the end-of-support date, Microsoft stops providing routine security updates for that version. That’s standard across operating systems, not unique or conspiratorial.

    When support ends, the OS does not stop working—but it does stop receiving security fixes unless you’re in an extended program (like paid ESU).

    2. “Microsoft is bound by law to provide a universal patch…”
    Incorrect.

    There is no law (in the US or most jurisdictions) that requires Microsoft to:

    • Continue patching an operating system indefinitely
    • Provide security fixes after end-of-support
    • Issue “universal patches” for retired software
    Software vendors are generally only obligated to honor:

    • Contract terms (enterprise support agreements, ESU programs)
    • Their stated lifecycle/support commitments
    Once they publicly declare an end-of-support date and meet it, they are not legally required to keep updating it.

    3. “If there is a major security flaw… they must fix it outside the update program”
    Also false.

    In practice:

    • Critical vulnerabilities discovered after EOL are typically not patched for free
    • Exceptions may happen voluntarily or via paid extended support
    • Very rarely, companies may issue out-of-band patches for widespread active threats—but that is a business decision, not a legal requirement
    Microsoft’s model is:

    • Fixed support window
    • Optional extended security updates (ESU) for paying customers
    • After that: no guarantees
    4. What is true in a limited sense?
    The only kernel of truth is:

    • Companies sometimes do still patch very severe issues after official support ends, especially if exploitation is widespread
    But that is:

    • Voluntary
    • Rare
    • Not legally mandated
    • Not guaranteed
    Bottom line
    The comment is incorrect in its core claim. Windows lifecycle policy is real, structured, and widely used across the software industry. “Update or die is a ruse” misunderstands how security maintenance actually works: unsupported software simply becomes increasingly unsafe over time because vulnerabilities are no longer being fixed.

    If you want, I can break down what “end of support” actually means in practical terms for Windows 10 users (security risk vs usability vs mitigation options).
     
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  8. Plendix

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    I said it often, all the shitshow you know about windows 11, you don't have that when:

    1) Install LTSC version,
    2) patch out update service,
    3) use startallback or classic shell.
    4) switch off memory protection (slows down machine)
    5) Be happy

    By the way I lately did a cinebench comparison on one exact notebook with that exact cinebench.exe (23) in window 10 and windows 11 ltsc, Windows 11 run substantially faster. Not the gui. the benchmark. and i have less latency on the same hardware with windows 11 compared to windows 10. Just saying. Windows 11 is not as bad as most people think it is.
     
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    True. Performance of non-Microsoft programs is not a Windows 11 problem. And once tweaked to hell it's as valid as Windows 10. LTSC versions are like half the tweaks out of the box.

    I myself will switch to Win11 once (had to postpone it) I mount my new CPU Intel 12600KF. Intel 12K or newer CPUs go ~10% faster with Windows 11 because of its famous new load balancer on cores (Task Scheduler, AMD's also benefit from it). I think I'll go with some X-Lite v24H2 version because it's discontinued so they literally can't fuck it up.

    Also, many features of Windows 11 require SSE4.2 instead of Windows 10's SSE2

    Edited: but as you may know, LTSC versions are only 100% legal if bought by companies, not individuals. Companies can afford to tell MSoft to stick all its bloatware in its own ass. And two- handedly
     
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  10. saccamano

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    I tag about as much to your "AI" as I do to your own statements - which is nothing. seems u should stick to macs. they're more your speed.
     
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    There is a LTSC version of WIN10 as well. Have used it successfully on more than one occasion. It does make the reverse engineering of new builds much less painful since a lot of the underlying crap existing in the retail version is not present and/or much easier to deal with. As far as the Win10 LTSC being any faster than a retail version, never tried a head to head speed comparison of the two. Although the retail version will without a doubt have more baggage to carry by default, unless it's properly "groomed" to compete with the LTSC version.
     
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