Universal Audio 'whistleblower' post

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  1. clone

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    I didn't say you are clueless, because most conspiracy theories have a least a few grains of truth to them. Anything you install can add services.
    Just because you don't know what they are doesn't make them malware, adware, spyware, or anything of the sort. Normally, someone making the outlandish claims you have posted would be asked to provide proof, but I won't bother because I know you can't, with absolute certainty.
     
  2. Somnambulist

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    There is but you need an iLok dongle. You can then stop it from running and the plugins work fine. If you want updates, you'll need to re-enable it though. If you only use Internet authentication via iLok software without a dongle you are correct. It's not much different to the way Cubase legit, Studio One legit and ProTools legit work. They all need to authenticate time to time as do a large majority of apps now. I am not saying it's good but it is the way it is now.
     
  3. MindCtrlDel

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    nothing is 100% safe like any other system but i know what i have been through in the past, not only with my pc but also my router xbox, and other devices; you don't need to be a pro hacker or cybersecurity expert for that i also used exploits in the past i knew how to use netcat en create a revershell but thats a long time ago
     
  4. muse2love

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    for this scenario you need an ilok key...

    I'm fighting this addon situation... because My usb port are for other use like intruments or drives or whatever except a dongle key that steels my port wihtout my consent

    It'S like you want my laptop to get raped by friends of you know who lolz
    PeaceR
     
  5. muse2love

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    I disklike that option
    depriving me of ports to connect drives or instruments

    I despise the rape of my laptop by any brutforce peep that may be linked to other crapy wolf pack mongers behind the curtains

    No way no dongle for me
    PeaceR thanx
     
  6. secretworld

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    In the past UAD used ilok cloud. Now machine bases auth. You can change to machine if you still have cloud. Once you have machine based you can be offline. Just tested. You get 3 auths per plugin, so can use them on 3 different machines. I have all their free plugins (only) and have no issues.
    Win10 and cubase on an i7 2600k @ 4.4ghz
     
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  7. clone

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    You're now trying to say you know what you are talking about re: the UAD client, but even your story is now drifting into tired old script kiddie BS. What's next, cracking your neighbors WEP? Yawn.
     
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  8. MindCtrlDel

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    exactly i dont know what i'm talking about thats why they try to hide it so well your the 1337 here or not bad guy all this hating comments on this forum if you know something open your mouth but dont make such cheap remarks if you dont even know me you dont know where i came from and you dont know where im going
    you apparently forgot to include the w in your name and the red nose have a nice day!
     
  9. Somnambulist

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    Preserving ports is fine but it is an EPROM that is not the culprit of what you speak. Software and ransomware does that. Every major studio in the world that uses ProTools and iLok applications would never let that level of privacy attack in.
     
  10. muse2love

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    I'm not affiliated with people who needs to snort coke in their privacy and claim they are mighty giant producer too
     
  11. muse2love

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    Nope my license with uad are not cloud based

    but UAD with it's fucken Robin no hood UA Connect is like a pimp dompting it'S whore to become more piggy stilly

    FUCK THAT SHIT
     
  12. sisyphus

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    All respect, I think a lot of people to settle it down a bit, as UAD Connect is easily blocked and worked around outside of install or updates (and lord knows they don't have many of those), and monitoring what they send to whatever degree during those processes hasn't been consequential, but I absolutely get not wanting any info shared etc.

    But no, you don't need it to run your plugs (unless you are cloud based authorized (and in that case you probably have other problems you aren't considering...)), and while I'm no fan of iLok at all, it is what it is, and something I've had to deal with for over 20+ years. Gonna have a dongle anyways with controllers and interfaces and trackballs and hard drives even with a laptop or whatever.

    I don't know or haven't heard about anyone getting in trouble with iLok for having, say, sister site plugs that were iLok defeated on their systems. Like Roland Cloud (which is far more active),... block it, and move on with life.

    UAD, and I've been critical of them in the past, and pissed off at them for ripping me off on some stuff too tired to delineate/tl/dr on now... but it's no big deal. Looking at data transferred, they aren't taking our sounds/sessions/etc, at most perhaps instantiation rate, parameters accessed, and whatnot.

    And sure, I could be wrong, but with my system shut down from sending them anything of consequence I know if, and having either machine authorized or hell, I "broke the bank" for purchasing an iLok dongle a few times over generations, ... and I don't like the idea of anyone sniffing anything, and that's why I'm OFFLINE while working, but I'm not seeing them sending voluminous amounts of data anywhere.

    Again, I'm no genius on this, and of course want to stay informed, but when it goes from a "whistleblower" post with certain intentions to say about the company, cool, I get it, and will pay attention. And understand the conversation regarding it to some degree without question.

    But when it just becomes a "I hate iLok because either I'm too cheap to spend the money to buy the dongle or don't like machine authorization (which all of mine support last I looked for the most part, and @clone 's screenshots confirmed from his side iirc)...

    I just see a lot of handwringing and people who don't pay close attention or educate themselves as to how either to protect themselves and their systems, go commando with being online with stuff they know they probably shouldn't, and simply don't pay attention to detail.

    If you won't use UAD because of either their HW or iLok restrictions, or don't like them period, cool. Your right to not do so.

    I personally have gotten them cheap on sale, and I'm stuck with iLok regardless due to legit Soundtoys/Eventide/and many others, and there isn't any dancing around it, and if one usb port on a 5 port usb $7usd dongle is the cutoff for consideration, ... ok. That's your call.

    Everyone is free to draw their own line in the sand. But it is what it is. And I try and buy the stuff I actually use and rely on, and that's not out of any nobility, so much as I'm often on the other side of it as well as a creator who gets paid for it once in awhile, and ripped off more than paid, and showing respect for the work done for tools I use and implement. If I'm lucky enough to make any money or get joy from their hard work, I don't mind showing reciprocity.

    Sister site stuff has saved me a lot of good money versus a bad product in regards to "extended trials" or whatnot, and I appreciate that. And stuff that I will use once for one thing that there is no way I'm spending 4 figures on solving, as isn't my niche in that world... so it goes, and I appreciate the gestures, generosity, and time that people spend to allow me to do so.

    And while I don't like the idea at all of UAD taking any data from any of us, or any dev for that matter... and I'm very much a privacy advocate,... this is just the beginning of the way things are lined up, and I think some people just need to spend a little more time understanding how to cover their 6 in a reasonable fashion, or feel free to deny the product/ecosystem, and get on with it.
     
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  13. Kate Middleton

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    i always had a dream of using UAD before they released in Native format. now i use their plugins. i think they are really good. fast results. high quality.. great ones.. (i used Waves before).. funny is you see often online on for example youtube or instagram sometimes the best producers or the well known many use.... UAD with the UAD sound interface. no i dont have a UAD sound interface but who knows might get one one day. they are quite good i think. until then..
     
  14. sisyphus

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    Honestly @Kate Middleton , if you do not need unison input, there is absolutely nothing special about UAD interfaces at this point in time. Nothing better than a MOTU interface etc. If those are your needs, gotcha. If not, don't bother.
     
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  15. Somnambulist

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    what a strange reply
     
  16. Kate Middleton

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    interesting. and by the way - i went last year to the music store to really listen to the best expensive genelec, adam audio and etc monitors. and especially the largest ones the heaviest ones from genelec.. and was disappointed... at such high cost they offered little sound quality compared to for example a home system or a surround system..
     
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  17. Balisani

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    Dude..., or Dudette, we can all appreciate and understand a one time disappointing experience; it happens to the best of us.

    But to so unscientifically conclude and claim in an audio forum that Genelecs "offered little sound quality compared to for example a home system" borders on the unconscionable. It's particularly cringe, if not risible to those of us who've worked for years on "the best expensive (...) and etc monitors."

    May I kindly encourage you to contact a pro audio retailer, or Belgium importer/distributor (for the "best expensive" brand of your choosing - ask Amptec for their nearest location, or email [email protected]) and ask them for even ½ hour of their time to demo said monitors in their listening/demo room. Take your best expensive CDs and play 5-6 tracks of various genres. Make sure to be seated.

    I guarantee you won't be "disappointed" with the "sound quality."

    All said, good luck to your red devils in the world cup.
     
  18. shinyzen

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    I can't stand Genelecs. They are so sterile and boring, dry, even too flat. They are ok to switch to for a quick reference, but would be very low on my list.
     
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  19. Balisani

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    Which Genelecs are you talking about? The 1990s, the 2000s, the 2020s? Mains, Midfields, Nearfields, Desktops?

    Conventional wisdom in the 90s and aughts used to be you had to track and mix on Genelecs to get the full benefit. I've not heard that from anyone in a looong time (2010s at least), so I'm curious which Genelecs exactly you can't stand. Care to share, please?
     
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    Im not sure on exact model, but Ive never liked them any time ive been in a room that had them. I know that a studio I worked out of for years had 90's pairs in all three rooms, but I have worked on various models through out the years. I know they are supposed to be accurate, but I just cannot click with them. After a year or so of the 90's pair I did sort of warm up to them, but still wouldn't choose them if given a choice.
     
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