Mixing question...

Discussion in 'Mixing and Mastering' started by estaz, Aug 14, 2014.

  1. estaz

    estaz Newbie

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    Hello guys,
    I produce Mainroom house tracks and when I sent one of my tracks to a record label I recieved an answer with a request to 'bring up the weight of the kick'. English is not my native language and I do not know many 'producer terms' as I have much to learn, so I'm asking you, guys, what does it mean to bring up the weight of the kick?
     
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  3. fuad

    fuad Producer

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    Do you somewhere we can listen to the track? What they probably mean is that kick is not cutting through the mix, or it's being drowned out by the rest of the instruments in the track like the bass and the synths. You might need to choose a different kick sample that fits better with the song or a different approach would be to bring all the faders down and start mixing everything around the kick.

    Go to the loudest part in your song, and start with the kick drum. Make sure it's sounding powerful and just the way you want it to sound. The start mixing all the other things around it and make sure it's always clearly punching through. And like I said, if you find that it's not working, then choose a different kick that has more "weight." Which means it has to have a good solid low end and a good attack (top end) that you will be able to hear when all the other instruments are playing.

    Try some saturation on your kick, it can make it sound more powerful and also try boosting the high end in your kick a little but to make it cut through.

    Do you have the song anywhere so we can listen to it?
     
  4. Kwissbeats

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    what he said ^^, only thing i can add is that you can look into kick tuning with your bass or other instruments
     
  5. GodHimSelf

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    try a demo of nicky romero's kick or big kick. they allow to create that heavy bottom end (even only the bottom if you like the top part of the kick).
     
  6. rickbarratt

    rickbarratt Producer

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    to add weight is to make it sound thicker and big.

    work on your Eq subtle boost around 70-100hz small q

    dip at 500 with a wide q

    and a boost at around 2-3khz about 2-3db with a small q
     
  7. Hardwell

    Hardwell Noisemaker

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    Sometimes a kick sounds huge and epic but don't fit to the song, try to find a different kick sample that fits to the track and work with that... And sidechain your bass and sinths... and eq it to not fight for space with your kick...
     
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    EQ, Sidechain, layer another kick, use sausage fattener, adjust your levels, choose another sample, read the Dance Music Manual, try Waves Scheps 73, tell the label to ^%$& off .. the choice is yours :mates:
     
  9. dokx1

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    Isn't it a bit sad that we seem to live in a musical world where it seems most important to "bring up the weight of the kick"? Just saying..
     
  10. Baxter

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    Do them a favor and let the kick as it is, and then turn down everything else.
    Maybe boost the kick a bit at ~50-100Hz and some ~3-6k just in case. Cut some 400-ish.
     
  11. GodHimSelf

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    I will actually add another tip. Find the fundamental of the kick (the lowest peak of the boomy part of it) and raise it there, with a small q.
     
  12. estaz

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    Hello again guys, :)

    I'm thrilled to see so many answers to my question, this is a really helpful and friendly community. So after I have read your suggestions, I tried to do the changes to the mix and so this is the result of it. First track(00:00-01:00) is the changed one, chorus begins at 00:24 , unchanged tracks' chorus begins at 01:28.
    Tell me how I can tweak it to make the mix better?

    http://soundcloud.com/visockis/audiosex-track-preview/s-Y7k1k

    P.S Listen to it on Soundcloud, as I shared it privately.
     
  13. davea

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    After listening your track examples, few thought:

    1. is it the master or the final mix, to be sure ?
    2. Did you High Pass enough all your tracks except the kick track, leaving enough room for the kick ? However, the kick track needs aswell a bit of HPass too, obviously.
    3.This track before or after needs more dynamics, if I can say. For example that seems a bit too much compressed. The rise part should be more checked in term of volume.
    Begin a bit less loud in medium/bass frequencies until the end of this part, trying to make a nice built up until the kick start. Maybe try to make this built up less stereo, when the kick is starting. Then, open /wider the stereo. All that gives a nice punch for this 2nd part. Of course try to keep your low end stable ( a bit saturation as said before, plus compress it a bit to keep it enough stable, beside the rest above which should be more organic, moving … ).
    All that giving room and puch for your kick, but not only this, the groove of your track too.

    It's a rapid analyse, obviously.

    Cheers
     
  14. estaz

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    Thank you for your thoughts. It's kind of a final mix, ofcourse, I'm going to tweak it to the best I can.
     
  15. GodHimSelf

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    Ok I am listening to your track right now. Increase the level of the kick by decreasing all other tracks volumes. Add a top kick also.
     
  16. Pm5

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    Ditto for the top Kick. Layer with a hipassed "normal kick sample" , and some white noise (just a bit), group the 3 tracks together, add saturation
    The kick sure has subs, but it doesn't give much rythm.

    @DokX : it's not sad at all, it depends on the style of music, and the tracks' kick is actually missing some weight. and an heavy kick is important in this kind of music.
     
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