Universal Audio 'whistleblower' post

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  1. surfer

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    The new Fender Studio Pro v 8.1 has a lot of new "AI" features like integrating Moises directly into Studio Pro and it also has an AI Assistant tool called "Studio Assistant" which runs in the background and "analyzes" the project and provides real-time analytics and support even on mixing decisions of the project directly from within the DAW itself - which sound like Studio Pro is collecting and sending data about our music and session from the computer to its servers. Is this for real?

    Check out this video @4:00 - Studio Assistant | New in Studio Pro 8.1 | Fender Studio - YouTube
     
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  2. PulseWave

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    It is understandable to feel hesitant or worried about privacy when terms like "AI Assistant" and "background analysis" are used to describe software functions.

    However, looking closely at how Fender Studio Pro 8.1 handles data reveals exactly what Studio Assistant and the Moises integration are actually doing under the hood.

    1. What is "Studio Assistant" Actually Doing?
    Your main concern—that a background tool is constantly scanning your song, listening to your music, and uploading your multi-track sessions to a server to give you mixing advice—is actually a misunderstanding of what this specific tool does.

    Studio Assistant is a search and support tool, not a virtual mix engineer. According to Fender’s release documentation, Studio Assistant is a natural-language search assistant designed to bring user manuals, technical support documentation, and video tutorials directly inside the DAW.



    • It runs in the background so you can type a question like, "How do I sidechain a compressor to a kick drum?" or "Where is the Dolby Atmos panner?" and get an instant answer or video without closing your project or opening a web browser.



    • It does not look at your audio files, analyze your frequencies, or send your music to the cloud to tell you how to mix. It is looking up text and tutorials.


    2. What About the Moises Integration?
    The cloud aspect of Fender Studio Pro 8.1 applies specifically to the Moises Studio Integration features, which handle tasks like vocal transformation, backing-track generation, and specific advanced stem separations.



    Feature Where it Processes Data Behavior
    Native Stem Separation
    Locally (On your PC/Mac) Fender updated their internal code to drastically reduce the system footprint. Standard stem separation runs completely on your machine's CPU/GPU. No music leaves your computer.
    Moises Advanced Separation & Voice Conversion Cloud Servers If you explicitly trigger a Moises cloud function (like converting a vocal to a different singer's voice), the specific audio event or track you selected is securely uploaded to Moises' servers to utilize their remote AI processing power, and the result is downloaded back into your timeline.
    3. Fender’s Official AI Principles
    Because privacy and artist copyright are major topics in modern music production, Fender explicitly publishes their AI Principles.



    • Data Ownership: Fender and Moises do not claim ownership over the music or data you feed into the system.

    • Opt-in Use: External data transmission only occurs when you intentionally click a button to use a cloud-reliant tool (like a Moises cloud process). Your session data isn't being scraped passively or used behind your back to train AI models without consent.
    Summary
    You can breathe easy. Your private songs and recording sessions aren't being quietly uploaded to a corporate server while you work. The "Studio Assistant" is just an integrated help desk, and any data sent to the cloud for features like Moises only happens on a track-by-track basis when you explicitly tell the software to run that specific tool.

    By the way, to unlock the full functionality of all Apps, enable Gemini Apps Activity.
     
  3. curtified

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    Yep the tools change, and malicious human nature will find whatever entropy it takes to get there faster. Yes you can use cars to get the job done faster. You can also use those same cars to get you to your job easier too. However the human choses to use the tool is on them not the tool. Tools can use tools too lol...
     
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  4. shinyzen

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    oh wow. Is Fender the first to integrate full gen AI?
     
  5. PulseWave

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    They are gaining a competitive edge over DAWs that don't feature AI; the question is whether "new" buyers—likely the younger generation—will want this and reward it with a purchase.

    Will other manufacturers follow suit?
     
  6. ELJUNTADERO2022

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    almost be that new buyer... not like it, not money.
     
  7. Somnambulist

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    No argument but there is a difference between doing it with official approval and doing it without approval :)
     
  8. teknomix

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    You can use TinyWall to block and monitoring all UA Connect traffic... or simply, Win>Setup>Startup apps>disable startup apps :like:
     
  9. Fauxdiophile

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    IF this is real, which at this point I wouldn't be surprised if it was, I hope this gives R2R even more incentive to finally crack the beast that is UAD. And, not that they'd make money from it, but being able to say:

    "We not only cracked UAD, but we removed all the AI training spyware, and our version loads 50% faster because it has no PACE DRM running 24/7 in the background checking for licenses"

    would be the best marketing for r2r ever created :hahaha:
    I have a used UAD Arrow interface I got off Ebay, and it took some setting up to get it working right with windows but honestly I do really like it when it works. Sucks that they're going this route if they're really doing it. Magic Wand can't come soon enough!
     
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  10. Lois Lane

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    After the patent runs out it just boils down to dollars and sense. A nod to the original is proper etiquette, the homage a curtsey to the circuit.

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  11. Sinus Well

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    money!?
     
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    to use UAD you need internet. the plugins dont load in off internet connection.. it says alot
     
  13. clone

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    It says either you have a DAW computer with no internet and no usb ports, which means you also can't download other plugins? Or don't know what you are even talking about? That's what that little icon on the far left says.

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  14. sisyphus

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    I have ~55+ UAD plugs, and I've never used them with the internet other than installing them or updating them. Then I block the UAD software and move on and whatnot. Done. It's not a problem.
     
  15. Balisani

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    Um, not in my experience: I've recorded yoga teachers, singer and guitar duos aplenty with a TwinX in Bali, and I can assure you, there is zero internet connection in the jungle.

    What I did have is a UA audio interface, obviously, and an iLok. With either or both of these, you're good to go - for the record.
     
  16. Somnambulist

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    Could be, but in many cases it is if the original manufacturer believes that the people they agreed to create a VST version will do a faithful reproduction.
     
  17. Somnambulist

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    They do if you have an iLok dongle. No different to the way Steinberg used to work with elicenser dongle. If you do not want to buy a dongle, sure, online only.
     
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  18. shinyzen

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    There are a handful of reasons that i can think of.

    • Existing relationship - If they have already worked together successfully, that can be worth more than hunting to squeeze out an extra 5% accuracy
    • Marketing / Reach - also potentially more valuable than a more accurate modeling.
    • Resources / Speed - Team of engineers and devs, QA, marketing, support, presets, storefronts etc etc. A smaller company may take 3 years to deliver, and have a fraction of the resources
    • As @Sinus Well said, money. There could be a minimum guarantee of some sort, an upfront payment, better royalties compared to another company
    • Future reliability. Sort of goes with #3. Fast and reliable compatibility updates, bug fixes, customer service etc.
    • Legal. UAD will likely have an established licensing department / lawyers. Overall more "official" and streamlined.
    • Strategic partnership. The plugin is just an afterthought. The real goal is a relationship that could lead to hardware sales, advertising, trade show presence, etc
    • Unaware of another, better option. Just because X made Y hardware, does not mean they know anything about the plugin world. Someone is in X's ear, "trust me bro, this is the best plugin dev. There is nobody else worth looking into".

    Official licensing only proves the hardware manufacturer chose that company for any number of reasons. It doesn't mean they evaluated every dev on Earth and concluded that this was the most faithful emulation possible.
     
  19. Somnambulist

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    Good effort. I use them along with others that people love and they're as good as anything else out there. Some people prefer others which is fine. A large majority of people crap on it and have never used them. That's like saying "I hate potatoes" having never eaten one.
    In many cases too which you left out, the hardware manufacturer also checks the plugin before it is released as part of the deal to ensure it does represent their brand properly. Money? Of course. Nobody is in it for their health because giving everything away for free won't pay the bills.
     
  20. ELJUNTADERO2022

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    So... thinkin about get that Pro bundle +11 plugins from them... guess the best will be not to do it right? x_x cant figure out if they are training ai or not, damnnn
     
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