I am not too bothered about the vibecoding itself. there are plenty examples of Synth Edit and Synth Maker/FlowStone plugins that elevate them beyond what you would normally expect of either environment. my main issue with vibecoding is now any tom dick and harry can make plugins, and the issue with that is 98% of the people who will be interested in doing that, will be putting out extremely low effort shit.

The libraries and algorithms that LLM's can pull from is extremely limited and most stuff that is public domain outside of MIT and GPL license stuff on Github is decades old. usually you would have to go to specific communities like the Reaktor User Library to find the low effort stuff, but due to accessibility and ease of use of LLM's the market is already flooded with these plugins.

Just look how many Youtubers and Social Media twats have brought out plugins in just the past 6 months alone, and very few of them offer anything novel outside of their branding

 

If you can share more insight about your experience with Ai assisting you, I'd like to know more. Especially in comparison of the frontier models vs the realistic expectations of local models like Qwen3 Coder 30B 5-bit. I'm constantly probing Gemini and Copilot for perspectives and stil in process of setting things up, but it helps to have a human perspective.

For context: I just built an Ubuntu box with a 5060ti 16gb (still configuring it). My intent is to use it as a peer-programmer, or even do some of the heavy lifting/scaffolding remotely for projects on my laptop. I have a M4 mac with 64gb of ram, so I may utilize that to run agents and mcp (autogen, continue.dev, openclaw, etc) - essentially using the laptop's LLM to orchestrate and supervise the ubuntu server's LLM (actually 26.04 desktop version being used as headless). My primary dev stack is Microsoft .Net, but I'd give some time for DSP and VST too.

 

Im probably going to get flamed due to the nature of this thread. And how most people have responded to me in the past for making tools using vibe coding with "AI Grifter" titles thrown at me. But i vibe coded a wine based PC plugin wrapper, That works natively in a mac daw!! Im super geeked i even got this far. Got stoked today so i thought id post on here while im still building.

It has a stand-alone wrapper ala 32 lives (last screenshot) but the server runs silently locally in the background.. it runs x64 and 32 bit windows .dll plugins natively on mac. Works with .dll files or .exe .msi installers. New and Old plugs work!

its super processor intensive right now so im working on ways to get compute down. Bounce in place works as of now. But automation doesnt.

Here are some screenshots. PM me if you want to test. Or flame me for AI slop below.

 

it also wraps each plugin individually so they show up in your pluginlist just like any mac plug would. No need for weird routing through loopback, wine, crossover etc.

VSTi instruments next! Would be dope to dust off some weird 90s vst that we all used to use for some weird sounds.

 

So Carla Rack, yabridge, Element? I see you're also using Wine.

No offense, but to me 'vibe coders' are just reinventing the car (not wheel) without actually knowing how it works and while potentially leeching someone else's open source code. And while the streets are already packed with cars (very shitty cars). I honestly can't take that seriously.

Why? It's almost a philosophical question at this point. Why?

The SynthEdit metaphor makes even more sense the more this thread goes.

 

ive been playing with "chatdsp " max for live you can build complete unique tools with llm in m4l for every synth and effect as you go it definitely needs refinement but as proof of concept having whole chains of one off devces its actually crazy obviously this is m4l not vst and im definitely not reaching for this over my trusted favorite vsts (yet) but the idea of where this is all going with the ability to just build very specific tools is as we need them its only going to get better
https://dillonbastan.com/store/maxforlive/index.php?product=chatdsp

 

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Carla rack isnt wrapping the plugin in its own plugin .vst, .au, vst3.. you need to run clara rack to run the plugin. it doesnt support all versions of pc plugs.

yabridge is still wine but its super hard to setup has weird routing its not just the windows plugin but in mac like this is.

again element is super big brain and has crazy routing. it isnt just the windows plugin running on mac like a mac plugin.

This isnt the only thing i vibe coded. I also have a degree in coding.

I helped build the RVC tool https://www.weights.com/replay and https://www.weights.com/ which recently got acquired by openAI https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/15/technology/openai-weightsgg-voice-cloning.html

Why use vibe coding? or AI?

1. I have an idea that i started in actual code. It works as a partner in helping me get past creative blocks, and through things that digging on stackoverflow, github, huggingface etc for hours would be a waste of time.

2. Because time is money, I have enough irons in the fire. If its something "free" to make with my codex, claude code, gemini credits. It makes make my life easier and possibly others then i will build it. I have tried all the things you suggested, along with other PC to Mac plugin bridges even local network versions in the past, they are all clunky and not in daw.

3. This one thing in particular. Its something i have always wanted due to how i didnt like the things you suggested in the past. So I thought i could take a stab at something easier.

SMH dude. Just funny how this forum (and the internet) is full of more negative vibes that supportive in the past decade.

 

i guess i don't understand what the point is. like you've typed in "a simple sine synth" or thats whats on the image anyway... why not just use a synth with a sine wave? like what NEW effect or instrument are you going to create with an llm?

 

Love this! You are defiantly on the right path! I did a podcast with ableton a while ago about how this will be in all daws soon! Im excited to try.

I dont know if you ever used wavtool before but it was doing a lot of LLM based daw control years ago! there are some videos online with it.

Im excited to see what will happen in the future with inferring on chips at the speed of https://chatjimmy.ai/

We will be able to just prompt like we are using our search bar for a plugin and it will be built just as fast on the fly!

 

Im assuming hes getting us to imagine the things we can do with it? Not to think of it from this stage of where things are. Think of it from where it can be.

Yes a simple sine wave is v1.. but v10 could be a serum clone!

http://producer.ai/

has some good examples of LLM based audio effects. Yes today its not going to make the entire waves suite. Just dream on where things can be.

 

Dude hell yah. This is amazing. Would love to test, will pM.

 

You gotta be trolling. There is no routing, and the installation is literally copying files to usr/lib and usr/bin. You use no more than two commands to add VST paths and sync them. After that, they show up individually in the DAW. Clap, vst2 and vst3. Simple as that.

You and other millions. And look at the state of things

Yeah, because those are positive times we live in. Read some news. You'll be surprised. Or maybe you just don't care. To each, his own.
Besides, you came here knowing you'd face criticism.

"Im probably going to get flamed due to the nature of this thread."
(proceeds to post it, get criticized and then complain about it)

 

which is more or less the definition of vibe coding.

using AI as one of multiple tools is totally legit, but also a completely different way of working, which nobody tackles.

even in synthedit you have to choose between one of four resampling filters with different tap lenghts - so you need to understand which quality is required in which situations. this is far more close to writing things all by yourself than to only prompt them.

 

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I havent tried it since it first came out. but it was such a pain the the ass when i first used it. had to do all this crazy setup, didnt support all plugs, had to pre install wine.

The thing I build was just for my friends to drop a .dll, exe, msi or whatever and it shows up in their daw. no need to do any back end funny biz.

Gonna grab the new yabridge and compare. Thx for bringing it to my attention that the repo got better.

Not complaining. Calling it out my observations of how things have changed from support to inner projections of anger.

Yeah the world is always been fucked its just more in our faces daily and the veil is being lifted.
Eating fast food, and consuming bad things in your body can make you bummed and depressed too. Its all about taking personal accountably of the things we consume or else it will consume us.

"You are what you eat"

 

Man maybe im missing something but can you give me a quick explanation on what you mean.

1. I cant find a mac installer within the repo
2. this really doesnt seem like what I built?

The thing i built wraps wine inside of my plugin wrapper, no need for the user get wine or do anything other than install and launch the app. Then they pick the plugin they want and its up and running in their daw on mac.

I tried to make it under 3 steps for the end user all GUI based no command line, no folders.

Can you link me to a youtube video showing this? or give me a quick guide?

 

stop promoting ai plugins

 

Stop opening threads about AI plugins or any other programming you don't want to read about. It's right in the thread title. Find a different windmill, Don.

 

@macros mk2 what you were saying it's link to a demo video by the creator of the software not me typing create a simple sine synth my prompts would be dank af Plus I have a sine wave already like you say

 

Vibe coding can be a single sentence sure, but you will get back a mediocre, uninspiring tool, if it works at all. With something like Taches GSD or Oh My Claude etc, it becomes much more sophisticated. With GSD for example, it starts with the agent asking you questions about what you want to build. You go back and forth with the agent, and it becomes more of a collaborator than just an executor. You have a lot of control. Build out whatever you are building in stages, and you have even more control. Its not just picking from 4 filters.

 

Agree with this. Seems like a lot of people that are anti using these tools have never really dove in and thought creatively about what they could build. They just think AI = Slop. There is slop everything. Its all about how you use it and what you build with it. In all of this.

Serato DJ allowed all of us vinyl djs to get way more creative in our dj sets. It also allowed paris hilton to be a dj. Arguably shes "Slop" but there are tons of other djs that only got more creative with the new tools. Its a broken record. Its what you do with the tools. You can have every neve pre-amp, every plugin ever, every sample.. but someone with a MPC and a synth can make a less "slop" song than someone with all that gear.

Who cares what the process is if the idea at conception and execution is creative.

The average person thinks the word "Prompt" means fast. Yes "Prompts" can be a choice to be used in the full creative process but thats not the only thing being used. There is always a lot of non "Prompt" work that goes into anyones creative process if they us AI or not.

 

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