E-mu 1212m was magic. Even back in the day the software tools were fairly painful to use, powerful as they were. Yeah, I mean PatchMix and Emulator X3.

But man, the card is rock solid. Low latency and crystal clear sound quality. Shame that the Creative-ization of E-mu is complete and no further audio chips are forthcoming from them. I'll never forgive Creative for what they did to Soundblaster Live... had a fantastic E-mu chip inside it and they completely watered it down with their software. Needed to install 3rd party drivers to make it go properly for sequencer use and it was still locked into 48K sample rate.

 

Exactly. They'd better finally fix their Bluetooth stack.
What just works out of the box on MacOS has been a nightmare to get stable and reliable on Windows for me.

 

Wait, are we really talking 'asio' - asio?
I mean am I gonna fire up any DAW from 2008 and have it output natively in low latency to the on board sound? Or is ist just wasapi 2.0?
Be cause if it's the latter let's see how sound folks are gonna adopt it.
Anyony bought a game on the Microsoft store lately? That disruptive steam killer?

//edit// oh wow. It's really og asio. Thought it's gonna be some ms crap 'like asio' That's cool. Let's see when it's there.

 

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Aaaand here we go again.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/202...n-question-as-dolby-sues-snapchat-over-codec/

Dolby asserts that AV1 “reuses” concepts from HEVC and that the codecs “are ‘based on the same hybrid block-based video-coding flow’ and employ nearly the same approach to dividing images into coding units… and blocks”.

Besides Dolby, InterDigital is also suing over AV1 and is accusing some Amazon Fire streaming devices of infringing on its patents by supporting the codec.

The results of the lawsuits could have lasting implications for AV1 adoption, which lags behind that of HEVC eight years after its release.

Dolby and Snap[chat] didn’t respond to requests for comment. An AOMedia spokesperson acknowledged receipt of our questions but didn’t provide responses ahead of publication.

 

You did not really give someone money for that, did you?
https://www.sordum.org/9470/windows-update-blocker-v1-8/
//oh... that thread is ancient... I keep the comment, maybe somone wants to stop windows from updating. Not getting updates is the best thing ever. Just don't use edge. Use something else with ublock. Security risks minimized.

 

Maybe they were tired of everyone pointing out how painless Core Audio is.

 

ok they finally removed their backstabbing habbit lolz

I just will never believe it

Telemetry is their mojo so... fucke them bitches with no heart and no soul

We make music

So download the ASIO provided by your soundcard manufacture or else waste your life as a zealot compound

PeaceR Love music always

 

Any news?

I recently discovered IoT LTSC Version of Windows and damn, that's the experience I always wanted - crazy fast and snappy with lower resource impact, more power for the DAW I guess. At the desk we all use an interface anyways I guess, but if we get native ASIO I see myself producing in bed with only a cheap ThinkPad and headphones, that would be great.

 

There's no way mickeysoft can come close to the operation smoothness of the great OEM audio hardware drivers. Especially in the case of RME and totalmix. Just another POS to have to clean out of the ms garbage closet.

 

They aren't trying to replace OEM hardware drivers. Not sure where it says that, perhaps I missed it, although I'm pretty sure it doesn't exist. There are numerous interfaces that do not come with their own drivers.

 

Let's wait and see...
We mustn't forget that Microsoft has direct access to the Windows code, so they COULD do more than anyone else—if they do it right. I think Microsoft is aware of how many people use Windows for
audio->Music-> gaming-Sound->, and-> film-sound design, and they'll do everything they can to keep those customers.

 

Right and those "interfaces" are generally low grade stuff that if one is looking for high quality audio should be left alone in favor of hardware that does have proper drivers. Good quality hardware is worthless without the proper drivers to back its operation and vice versa. There's no way a catch-all or A4A type solution does this.

 

Garbage-ware, Spyware, Telemetry, ad pushers, - yeah they are certainly doing everything they can to push away as many users as possible.

 

I missed this. Holy shit, this pisses me off with a passion...

 

I'd hazard the development impetus for this originated while developing their new Xbox, to augment overall gaming responsiveness and thereby perhaps steal market share over Sony's historically dominant PS.

 

Microslop does not need to ever bother doing that driver. It's 25 years to late.

Also, I assume it would be available only as part of a Windows 11 update. So again, M$, don't bother - I'm using WUB.

 

Nup... RME's drivers are there because they support the totalmix/hardware combo. No way is mickeysoft going to duplicate that. Dunno about other hardware vendors. The main reason I have used RME gear exclusively for almost 2 decades is because their hardware is impeccable and their drivers are rock solid.

More than likely ms will probably end up pimping out the "ASIO" as a ms-store POS like they did with the HEVC codec. Who here disagrees that the HEVC codec should be part of the OS image and not a pay-for add-on? The HEVC was made available to us all without having to screw with the ms-store because the user public was not down with a core piece of the OS being a separate pay-for. And just for giggles, mickeysoft still persists to this day with pimping that HEVC codec on "the store". Goes to show you they don't know much about end users - seems they should have better insights with all that telemetry they collect. Also it's no secret to anyone that the first things one disables and nukes on a new build is the whole ms-store/wallet/user experience/diag telemetry garbage. So good luck on that one if it happens.

Unless it is strenuously proven (over time) that mickeysoft is capable of providing catch all ASIO support (a so-so proposition as evidenced by ASIO4All) and is rolled in as a part of the install image (not pimped out to "the store" or only available as an "update") I would not ever be using it over the OEM driver.

 

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At this point...maybe it's time to move out of the neighborhood.

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...And judging from their modus operandi in recent years, they will intentionally make it require v25H2 (or whatever newer comes out), trying to press users to ditch their Windows 10 and even older Windows 11 installations.