Mental Health Assistance

Discussion in 'Lounge' started by daniellondon, Jul 23, 2018.

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Is there hope for me?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. FUBAR

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  1. Iggy

    Iggy Rock Star

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    There really is no magic key or words of wisdom that will push you to actually do something with your amassed software and hardware ... you just have to start doing it. Maybe you're afraid that all this stuff isn't really going to give you the ability to make good music? Maybe you're better off with a day job and plenty of time to get online or play games or pursue what I assume is now your chief hobby of downloading software and sample libraries? Who knows? The only other thing you can really do is to start doing it -- that's the division between people who accomplish things and the people who want to accomplish things. In the time it took you to describe your musical style to us, you could have laid out a basic melody in a DAW.
     
  2. Midnight Furie

    Midnight Furie Kapellmeister

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  3. Bite Coin Me

    Bite Coin Me Noisemaker

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    If you are fucked than I'm dead. Boy you are missing the big picture. You are not doing it for the grammy. You are doing for yourself and yourself want's to give to the music. THATS the only thing there is and the only thing that matters. You get to live beyond 80 if you are smart soo... no fubar
     
  4. stevitch

    stevitch Audiosexual

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    I'm not going to say, "I don't understand – I don't have that problem." I want to strangle the narcissists who say that to me. However, consider another perspective, being mine.

    I feel "all-set" in whatever software I own. I could be "stuck with" the samples and effects that come with Logic Pro. I don't compare myself to anyone, I don't compare my obscurity against the fame of anyone. I would love to collaborate with people, but have never found the right match – but I am also autonomous enough in my creativity and talent to produce music that I can't believe that I had made, and which other people have trouble equating with the person they know as "me" (it far outshines the slob that I am). I'm happy to have a computer with which to realize this stuff, since I'd started on 4-tracks cassette decks in a primordial time before you were born (and it's such a luxury to be able to whip-up something which 30-20 years ago would have had to be funded by a record company), and a lifetime of experience is behind the music-valve in my mind - like pressurized water waiting to come through the tap. I surpassed the age when one has no time for writers' block; I expect nothing, starting from nothing, and something beyond my own imagination of what I am capable of often results, but people even like the stupid shit that I do every now and then.

    The only thing that stands in the way of my own productivity and creativity is periodic debilitating depression. It gets really bad; this past Spring, suicide made sense to me. The whole first have of this year had been so black that it absorbed all light shone upon it. I've managed to turn that around, but I don't take for granted that I'll feel "okay." The conditions of my life which cause this depression still persist – no, it's not due to a "chemical imbalance" nor to defective self-image nor to a flaw in my character. My self-esteem is rather healthy, from living through some extremely humiliating and demoralizing times and traumas for a long time. I won't go into the particular factors of my life that cause my depression, but they're common among men of my demographic designation and income bracket.

    Aside from debilitating lethargy and apathy, a feeling of a barrier between other people and me, and wishing I had someone to inherit the rights to my music and such so that I'd be free to go, as it were, the big problem that this poses to me is that I can't even bring myself, physically, to open Logic, to play my guitar or keyboard, or even write down ideas that are in my mind from a dream from which I'd awakened. I feel that this darkness is absorbing the light of my life, which manifests itself as and in my music.
     
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  6. G String

    G String Rock Star

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    I didn't ever suggest you should. ;) I said "Relax".
     
  7. hackerz4life

    hackerz4life Audiosexual

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    its not his ego. its why 99% of people with steady jobs are not producing anything relevant or do music as a hobby aka weekend musicians.
    9-5 job will exhaust you chronically. art demands a rested focused body. try to find a job where you get least exhausted even if paid less.
     
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  9. Rorer

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    ADHD is just a word for Active people that can think for themselves.
    Democracy is just a word for NON Active people that want to controll the ADHD ones :)
     
  10. Smoove Grooves

    Smoove Grooves Audiosexual

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    Even 9-5 in a studio!
     
  11. Rorer

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    2 Questions.
    Does the moon spin or wobble?
    And can you see the backside of the moon from earth?
     
  12. Smoove Grooves

    Smoove Grooves Audiosexual

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    Don't let me stop you from commenting on every thread.
     
  13. eXACT_Beats_

    eXACT_Beats_ Audiosexual

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    This is abso-fuckin-lutely truth. I find that being around The Public for extended periods of time exhausts me to the point where it's an uphill battle trying to actually accomplish anything that's worth a damn, musically, as my head is too clogged with crap.
    But then, I'm the definition of an introvert, having to have time away from people to decompress. Not to start some sub-thread about Johnny Depp (please refrain,) but I can relate with his stance on being in the public eye "If the choice is between being gawked at, and sitting in a chair in a dark room, I prefer the dark room." I am the Old School producer who does his best work in the shadows.
    Honestly, I don't know anyone who is working a soul-crushing 9-5 who makes music of any note.
     
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  14. hackerz4life

    hackerz4life Audiosexual

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    this is the core problem. time and energy, this is the only thing you need. its not money or the gear.
     
  15. Dalmation

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    I searched 'ADHD' first so come to here...

    I've been numbing my symptoms of (undiagnosed) ADD with alcohol for decades.

    I've been a hoarder of PC & VST stuff but it collects dust -_-

    Re. R2R etc. stuff at sister;
    reading all the latest instructions is. do this, do that, can, cannot... is doing my head in. I just file it for later attention.

    It's a headache to keep up with the updates, bug fixes, new releases etc. *_*

    I need a 2nd me to actually use the stuff !
     
  16. No Doz

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    i've been working professionally in music for most of my adult life now. i know scores of people who are neurodivergent who make incredible art. i know even more people who work non-musical 9 to 5s who make incredible art. a lot of that art is widely appreciated and patronized by fans around the world

    to the contrary, i've known very (and i mean very) few whose creativity was mainly driven by a desire for fame or accolades who were able to actualize even a modicum of that fame or success for themselves. the few i do know never seem happy, as the lights are never bright enough and the awards are never shiny enough

    dreaming about feeling appreciated for your work is natural and fun, but when it becomes a primary concern it infects what you make. audiences can always sniff it out a mile away. there's a reason why so many "industry plant" acts historically flop

    do your best to streamline your creative process. remove distractions as best you can. learn a ton about your neurotype so you can understand strengths and weaknesses you may have in relation to making art. spend some time reflecting on why you love music and what gets you inspired to create. listen to some records you love. spend time making things that make you and you alone happy. find joy in the details and the process. kill the perceived audience in your head

    i empathize with how you're feeling, just remember emotions are a good thing and are there to be channeled. it sounds trite, but you're really young and creative life can be long if you foster it correctly. good luck
     
  17. Kate Middleton

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  18. Synth Life

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    have you tried making music for yourself, like, maybe back in the beginning.
     
  19. DoubleTake

    DoubleTake Audiosexual

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    False claim: I've got the musical prowess of Max Martin and the audiological finesse of Serban Ghenea.
    False claim: But it's all stuck on top of a hill that my depression, ADHD, post traumatic stress disorder is preventing me from climbing.
    Truth: Deep inside I know I suck shit.

    First get rid of the narcissistic lies.
    You don't have those things "within" you and they are simply not made manifest...
    They DO NOT EXIST inside you until you BUILD THEM.

    You may (as they did and do) have potentials and talents, "prowess" & "audiological finesse" for nearly everyone, are DEVELOPED SKILLS.
    Only a very few have such access to the potentials and talents, and often that "gift" comes at the expense of other things, like SIGHT, being able to SPEAK, etc.
    Humility is what you need to cultivate, and maybe then you will be able to WORK on it.
     
  20. flier0244

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    I'd say you're traumatised, an addict, and are distracted by your addictions.
     
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