like to add this one as it is recommended by hardcore artists:
https://shop.ns-audio.com/product/the-beatkrusher-the-ultimate-distortion/

 

Here is some explanation. Works with other DAWs as well for most part i guess.

 

Hardstyle IS NOT 909@gabber style

 

I think it's best to go for serum 2.
There are so many possibilities with serum.
From what I see, some people can do with serum, it's fucking insane.
And you can always add your effects chain later. You can also recreate the 909 in serum, so no samples.

 

I’ve always been surprised by meaningless answers like yours. Can you explain WHY you would emulate a 909 in Serum? Why? Why not just use a sample (like people did in the ’90s — just look at the title of this thread) and distort it using the methods that were actually used back then (Mackie mixer overdrive or Pro Co RAT guitar pedals, both the original hardware units and their software emulations)?

Once again — WHY? With Serum you won’t get an acceptable result, it won’t sound like an authentic 909 or its proper, authentic distortion. It’s nonsense…

 

Hey, you don't have to attack me right away, but maybe you're right. If you want an authentic gabber kick, go for a 909 with the Roland 909 emulation or Drumazon, you still have more possibilities than just a sample, but my opinion is that Serum offers the most possibilities for kicks a sample is just a sample, you can't change much about it.

 

you should also get a mackie instead of a better mixer so you have the "right" desk clip distortion too.

if you do not copy other people's tracks from twenty plus years ago, they aren't right.

 

All good but here the real tip:

before any sound manipulation for your Gabber 909 kick, skin your head , drink your speed and chew intensely a gum to preserve your teeth while distorting a 909 bass drum.

You are now ready and the sound will be real!

 

So you think you need hardware for real hardcore kicks I haven't put much time into hardcore yet I would also like to produce hardcore but my kicks are not quite there I tried to make a hardcore track a few weeks ago and sent it to a friend his reaction was this track isn't hard and fast enough even though I was at 180bpm but I know what he likes we grew up in the nineties with mostly hardcore he likes those old punchy kicks

listen to this song proper oldschool hardcore from the nineties

i was wondering those filter sweeps over the kick was that done via hardware?

 

Find your own style. Be yourself and don't copy anyone else! I've never asked anyone what they think of my music.
What's the point of a negative review? I know some musicians who always say, "Please don't leave a rating."

 

No. I was commenting about this post below. I do not think you need a Mackie 1604 etc. to "correctly desk clip" kick drums to get good results.
I would venture to guess not very many people have ever shouted over a 30 foot long 8 foot high wall of speakers "you can tell the mixer they used to get that kick drum", or where they got the starting sample.

 

I absolutely don't mind a negative review; not everything in life is positive.
I just want honest opinions from people with good skills who can explain to me what's good and what's not, and what I need to change to improve that's how you learn.
And ofcourse lots of practice and practice makes you better.

 

I found that chaining a couple or 3 distortions (I like Fabfilter Saturn and Soundtoys Decapitator), with lower gain settings works better than one single distortion.

Alter the position of them in the chain, add some parametric eq boosts etc, voila

But yeah, the right 909 character is really the key