Have any of those who are concerned about AI preventing them from creating great music ever written a hit song, or are likely to in the near future?

If no, yet you think AI can just pull one outta the hat just like that.

For whatever reasons it is that makes you think or know you can't or won't ever write a great hit, AI will have the same or similar problems.

If AI ever does, er, Write? Produce? Make Up perhaps, a massive hit, it will be the exception that proves the rule und a hunan will be at the helm, AI excels at calculations, humans at intuition, creating Art is about, among many other human attributes, intuition.

But i really don't care where great music comes from, us or them, it's only the quality of the music that matters, not how it came into being.

 

You just forgot a point : AI create NOTHING.

It just steal human VIRTUAL production found on the internet.
And re arrange the stolen parts, crediting NOBODY.

Go ask AI to make you a sandwich
And when your fridge will be empty, ask AI to fill it ...

This thread is the fastest way to find ppl for my "ignore" list.

 

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it still can happen that after the maximum possible introduction of autogenerated content into the market, real music and its distribution will be reborn simply because you can make more money with it.

AI music in the quality of suno music from today can be created live and locally, directly on the kids iphones, in less than 4 years from now, using free software and free databases/models. in that kind of content lies basically no future market.

 

yep.

currently big platforms are forced by law to ask uploaders if they have cleared the copyrights.

one could extend that idea to let people only upload things while mentioning the kind of clearing (yours, you are allowed to use it by the right holder, public domain, creative commons...)

only the obligation to declare things ("this is human composed music by me or by mr. john doe") by legislation will lead to responsible actions.

 

Another practical aspect that's not really discussed -

Its a horrible working model for creatives.

Suno etc are basically subscription services, attached to a complex data server infrastructure. You are entirely dependant on a system that demands expensive monthly subscription payments, yet you own nothing - neither the output or the hardware making it.

A lot of AI companies (i think its most) are losing money right now. Subscriptions are charged at a loss to get users onboard. Just before xmas reports came in that certain large investment groups and tech companies were starting to get jittery and becoming reticent to inject more money into the sector.

Music gen AI isn't something you can do at home.

Due to different data and input formatting, company models sound and work differently, so your prompts are only usable at one company.

If you are a 'creative' making a career in this system, you are entirely reliant on various interdependent companies staying afloat. The 'artist' is at shitty end of wobbly barely sustainable infrastructure.

It could all just stop tomorrow. Suno could burn through their money, stop paying one bill, get cut off and your 'sound' or 'talent' instantly evaporates, your career is basically over in a day.

Not very comforting long term.

Also why a lot of creative groups aren't becoming dependant on big AI.

 

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Suno still gave you the recorded music...

 

It's all a huge scam and a huge fraud, why even think for yourself, just get a chip implanted and you'll be directly connected to Suno.

 

Yes you can, there is plenty of opensource models that perform pretty well on mid gaming pcs. Also there is a lot of stuff you can do on the latent space with audio, not everything is generated via prompt: audio2audio, style transfer, interpolation, characteristic manipulation... There is a lot of room for sound experimentation, we are just starting with the tech as a new way to work with audio. A lot of creative groups are using diffusion models for artistic endeavors, deep dives and cross media experimentation. But yeah, not relying on the AI circle jerk corporate conglomerate, or on the low effort prompt full output bullshit is just a matter or principles for each individual.

I'm glad bandcamp is trying to get rid of those ones. Not so glad that the users has to be the ones who enforce it. They make good money, they can invest on filters for the good of their own hard drives space. The delation systems make people comfort with being a delator.

 

I meant as in training and running prompt driven full song output like suno at home WITHOUT spending a healthy chunk of cash and running complex programs yourself. Where as I can run and train art generation at home on a midlevel PC.

But you are right there's a ton of smaller tools development across every area exploring LLM's, which is where it should have stayed.

'A lot of creative groups are using diffusion models for artistic endeavors, deep dives and cross media experimentation.'

Can you share some of these groups? Because the art side is pretty mediocre - its a lot of non creatives playing around. Maybe the odd cool art installation sometimes or a technical artist surfacing something interesting that MIGHT be useful eventually when it works properly, but generally its become quite uninspiring. Even games companies are really only using it to explore very early concept development.

 

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This is a good point. Obviously going to Suno - typing in one prompt and then calling the result "your song" and posting it to streaming networks is riduclous.

But what about someone who for instance writes their own little hook - then puts it into Suno Studio and gets a specific instrument added to it and brings it back into their DAW for processing?

What about someone who makes a hook, gets Suno to cover it into something with the same melody but a different style - then the sample that result with the stem splitter and build a track around it - how is that any less work than just sampling from vinyl?

If you want to you can use AI as a tool to make things you couldn't before - whilst still putting the same time and effort you did into any tracks - and substantially more work than someone dragging loops in from Splice.

It definitely has pros and cons - and there will always be lazy people who apply the minimum amount of effort to anything and still feel justifed to claim they "made" it.

 

They can claim whatever they want, but at one point they will get claimed and disputing this stuff may not end up in their favor

 

Here's the other thing with Suno too - YOU can write a melody line. Sing it/hum it whatever into the microphone and then say, ask for that melody to be played by a violin. So its your melody but AI has transposed it from your hum to a violin. Another grey area.

 

Thing is @3:30 in the video, moment you upload it to Suno you are giving irrevocable license for them to use that recording how they please, so it's not yours anymore and they pretty much take no accountability for anything, so it's on you if everything goes south in any way.

 

Yeah but i'm not really bothered about that - let them train the models. That's all they can do with it that is useful - and even then they probably won't - imagine the quality of the garbage some people upload there - it's not exactly going to be worth training from is it.

 

You are giving them irrevocable rights, it's not your melody or recording anymore, plain simple.

 

Yeah but you have to step away from silly T&Cs and clickbait scaremonging articles. Lots of websites have terms like this, more to protect themselves than anything. Never in a million years are they actually going to sue someone who uploaded their original work and then released that original work as is - made enough money from it to be worth pursing and then Suno came at them saying "our T&Cs say we own 100% of this now" - likely that wouldn't even stand up in a court of law anyway - and they'd never do it.

 

It's about your rights, you can't sue Suno or anyone over it, so at that point you stand slim chance in court of law. They don't own it 100%, but neither do you, so yeah.

 

It'd be a hit! 'Sue Sue Suno'

 

Well you do own it actually. You haven't given away ownership. The key point is that you don’t transfer ownership of your uploaded music to them. You warrant you own it, and you grant them a very broad licence, but it’s explicitly “non-exclusive”. That means you keep your rights and can still release the same work yourself (including with a label or however else). You'll find almost all music websites will have similar terms because they're trying to protect themselves against people uploading 3rd party content they don't own and from having that content played back on their website. It's not there for them to claim they own a license for it so you can't release it.

 

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TL/DR. Just a quick and basic thought. I think there're too many variables and possible uses. Evil or not, perhaps not even Suno's own lawyers know what to do with all of them.