Spire often makes an echoing woosh with many presets. I use Ableton Live 11 and a Steinberg UR 22 MK2 sound card.
Any suggestions for removing this annoying woosh?

 

a lot of the Spire presets do the same thing in Logic too, it has nothing to do with Ableton. they have too many FX on a lot of them. You can't turn them off at the global level, it is per preset. This is like the Quality setting in Serum 2 which is per patch, but at least a lock option was added so you aren't fixing every preset.

You could stick a simple gate plugin after it, or even sonible smartgate. You could also cut the sustain by sticking a transient shaper after it to reduce the tail to silence faster (I like this trick on hats and other drums but works for this too). If you have WideBlueSound Silencer available, that would be the easiest option possible.

 

Last edited: Nov 8, 2025 at 8:39 AM

Thank you so much for your valuable suggestions

 

Spoiler: Source: Grok KI

The “echoing woosh” you’re hearing with many Spire presets is almost always the built-in reverb tail (and sometimes a long delay send) that Reveal Sound baked into the preset.
Spire’s own FX section is the culprit, not Ableton or your UR22mkII.

Quick Fix Inside Spire

1. Open Spire’s GUI on the track.
2. Click the FX tab (bottom row, right-most button).
3. Turn the Reverb “Mix” knob to 0 % (or click the power button next to Reverb to bypass it).
4. Do the same for Delay if the woosh still trails.
5. Optional: lower the Chorus mix – some presets abuse it for “movement”.

That instantly kills the wash on every preset you load.

Ableton-Level Fixes (If You Still Hear It)

- Freeze/Flatten the MIDI clip → the tail is rendered and you can chop it.
- Put Utility before Spire and automate Width → 0 % or Gain → –∞ at the end of the note to hard-cut the tail.
- Insert Reverb (stock) after Spire with Dry/Wet 0 % and enable Freeze only if you want tails.

Preset Hygiene (Prevent It Forever)

- After loading any Spire preset, right-click → “Init Preset” then re-enable only the oscillators you need; copy-paste the filter/env settings you like.
- Or save a blank template with FX off: Menu → Preset → Save Preset As… → “00-INIT-NoFX”.

UR22mkII Note
Your interface is not adding reverb; it’s sample-accurate and has no built-in FX. Latency is irrelevant here.
Do the FX-tab step first—99 % of Spire “woosh” complaints vanish in 3 seconds.

 

^ hopefully soon Grok will start learning faster so it can send its owner and his new trillion dollar contract into space permanently.


I don't use Ableton but this looks like a cool trick to learn or try anyway: suggested by another AI, but don't worry it is only owned by a nice consortium of aliens and freemasons.

Spoiler

set up an “FX Kill” rack in Ableton Live for Spire. It lets you instantly toggle all Spire effects off for any preset with one knob twist or button click.

1. Load Spire into an empty MIDI track

• Drag Spire from your plugins into a new MIDI track in Live.

2. Open Spire’s interface

• Make sure the FX tab is visible (bottom right).
  
  
• You’ll see the on/off buttons for Reverb, Delay, Chorus, Phaser, Shaper, and EQ.

3. Group Spire into an Instrument Rack

• In Live, click the Spire device title bar so it’s highlighted.
  
  
• Press Cmd + G (Mac) or Ctrl + G (Windows).
  
  
• You’ll now see a rack with Macro controls above it.

4. Enter Macro Map Mode

• Click the “Map” button on the rack (top left of the rack window).
  The Macro Mapping Browser will open on the left.

5. Map all Spire FX toggles

• Click each FX on/off button in Spire’s interface (Reverb, Delay, Chorus, Phaser, Shaper, EQ).
  After each click, hit the “Map” button next to Macro 1 (or whatever macro you want to use).
  Live will assign all six switches to that one Macro control.

6. Exit Map Mode

• Click “Map” again to close mapping mode.

7. Set default state (optional)

• Turn the Macro knob to off (0%) so all FX are disabled.
  
  
• Right-click the Macro and choose “Rename” → FX Kill.”
  
  
• If you want it to start dry each time, leave it turned down before saving.

8. Save the rack as your default

• Click the disk icon on the rack’s upper right corner.
  
  
• Name it “Spire – FX Kill Rack” and save it to your User Library.