external hard drive data Disappeared

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  1. Musicvanss

    Musicvanss Newbie

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    Hello music makers

    today i started recording and when tried to open a session it was gone along with everything on my external drive.. it is a samsung hd203wi (2TB) i am on windows 7 ultimate 64 bootcamp. osx lion. i tried plugging it in on my mac laptop and repairing the external but disk utilities said it can't verify or repair it. when clicking on computer in windows it shows a lot of space is taken up. but when i click on the folders and select properties i get 0 bytes for size, and size on disk and as i mentioned before the folders are empty accept for 1 (see below). same when i plug it into mac it shows that the space is taken up (i.e. 461 gb free of 1.81) but all the folders are empty. ??????? in computer management under storage and disk management it says - simple basic HFSJ Healthy primary partition. this drive had reaper and pro tools files along with installers and a fewwinclone backups (images).

    (this may or may not be important. 1 folder on the drive still has some data showing and files in it. it is a .winclone folder 114gb. i think it is a backup that relied on some previous winclone backups. (the .winclone folder is 114 gb and my windows 7 drive is 165 gb) (my bootcamp drive is 271 gb free of 436gb)

    I did not get to make a second backup of this yet and all the data is really important to me. If anyone can help me it would mean A LOTR


    Thank you


    R
     
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  3. zero-frag

    zero-frag Producer

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    I've deleted an entire hard drive by mistake one time, I used O&O diskrecovery and managed to recover everything on it.
    Give it a try and I hope you can recover your files
    Edit: The scan of the entire drive may take a while but it's worth it :bow:
     
  4. Musicvanss

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    hello zero-frag

    i will look into that right now and post the results..
    Thank You for taking a moment to to try and help me with your message












     
  5. beatroot

    beatroot Producer

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    First run Disk Warrior and see if you can view the files.The data has to be there since it shows that the disk space is taken.If If you have a friend using the same platform please try to hook up the same disk on his computer and see if you can view all your data or else hook it up to another a pc and copy all the data to a fresh hard drive(assuming you can retrieve the data) :dunno:
     
  6. bluerover

    bluerover Audiosexual

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    I've had that happen to me years ago. I DO remember that the data is all actually still there.

    Can't remember what I did to finally remedy the problem though. (happened in the Win XP days)

    Did you check the drive on another computer to see if it recognizes the tree structure?
     
  7. Musicvanss

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    i am going to try diskwarrior and 0 & 0 and post results *yes*
     
  8. GangamStyle

    GangamStyle Ultrasonic

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    i had this happen with a seagate external drive once.
    after much stuffing about i ripped the drive out of the external enclosure and put it into the pc directly, and all my files were there and accessible.

    turns out the circuit board in the external enclosure had gone a bit crazy.
    might be worth a try if what you already tried does not work.
     
  9. Musicvanss

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    i have another enclosure,,,,,actually i have 4 total enclosures…..lol anyways…same result using any of them. also i don't think i deleted any thing like zero-ragged did but i suppose there is always that tiny possibility at least. i wasn't aware i could put my HD201Wl inside my mac. is that even possible?? never thought of that or knew it was an option :wow:

    i started a 00 recovery search for files it just stays at current process 0% current position 18,63 gb 0 files found 0 folders found and the time elapsed sand the time remaining just keep rising……time remaining is at 37 hours…….can't imagine this is right. diskwarrior is mac…….maybe that's what I'm supposed to be doing????? remember i am on bootcamp with windows 7 64 ultimate and mac osx lion.

    ok never mind my last comment for the moment….i stayed patient and 00 has started the current process it is at 1% :dancing:

    right now i can't view it because 00 doing a search for files. it has 21 hours left and i'm not sure its going to help its only through149 of 1.82 tb. i will let you know what the structure is. i think i mentioned i opened it on another mac and got the same results. yeah,,, think it was a flat and not "list" type structure. i will confirm asap.


     
  10. Guitarmaniac64

    Guitarmaniac64 Rock Star

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    2tb takes very long time to recover i have recovered a 120 GB disc some years ago that "only" had something like 15 Gb of files in it (of course with a slow computer) but anyway it took much more 24 hours before it was finsished
     
  11. audioplg

    audioplg Ultrasonic

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    are you using macdrive on the windows install if so go ahead and run diskwarrior or even a simple use of diskutility will sort it out in most cases.

    if your not using macdrive then its a windows formatted partition and diskwarrior cant do anything with it.
    last time i came across a external that the files just vanished it was due to the TOC getting corrupted and used one of the hard drive mbr tools in hirens boot cd to fix it (http://www.hiren.info/pages/bootcd). cant remember wich tool it was as it was a long time ago.

    this could happen due to the drive not being ejected properly or it is a sign that the drive is failing so when you get it repaired copy contents to a new drive just to be safe
     
  12. jacksterine

    jacksterine Noisemaker

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    I've had this happen....and managed to "get the files back" using DiskWarrior.
     
  13. sigge

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    Hi Musicvanss

    I had the same problem last year, tried every recovery software I could find. Nothing worked, the few programs that did find files on the disc couldn’t get them out to another disc, etc. There was always some snag that made the process incomplete. All the big name rescue software and all the compilation Hirens and others, they all failed. This was a disc I didn’t want to lose, and I didn’t have the cash to send it of f to a rescue service.
    I even tried putting the disc in the freezer as a last resort. I wasted days and days learning everything about corrupt discs and MBR’s and bootsectors and on and on.
    Then someone mentioned ”Parted Magic”, so I thought it was just another run of the mill rescue-software-clone.
    Especially when their website really doesn’t seem too good, and the price was only 5 bucks.
    I really decided against trying it, then my buddy said ”I have their old free version here”. Turns out this amazing software was free up until August 2013, now they charge 5$.
    Reluctantly I put their ”Parted Magic Live CD” in the player and had absolutely no hope that this would be any different than all the other stuff I’d laboured with.
    I was shocked, it was so well executed, so fast, so perfect, so beautiful.
    I had all files rescued and saved from the faulty external disc to another healthy external disc in no time.
    I’m still impressed to this day, this software is in a leauge of its own compared to any other rescue-stuff I’ve ever seen.
    I cannot understand why it’s still relatively unknown, it ought to be everybodys first go-to rescue-disc, it does everything you’d ever need. From the oldest systems to the most up to date.
    I bet you think I work for this company, but I don’t, I’m just an old european guy who tried everything in vain, and then was completely blown away with this spectacular software that saved my day.
    It’s Unix-based, updated regularely, and I’m on version 2013-11-11, and I won’t upgrade until I need it in any more recent machine. The version I have serves me well until then.
    Sorry for this long rant, Musicvanss, but I just had to try and convince you to try this program with the silly name, before you’ve wasted as many days as I did on my failed disc. The program is out in the wild, both the old free versions and the newer versions, but send that genious programmer a few bucks if you have some spare change, that guyt is a true hero!

    Regards from sigge. Hey – Good Luck!!!!!!!
     
  14. Musicvanss

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    hi gutarmaniac.

    yes it is taking forever. I just woke up, to some coffee , and 00 is still saying 21 hours left and its showing barely have found anything. readout at the moment is
    search phase=2 of 3
    current process =32%
    searching for folder structure=full bar
    current position=614 gb
    files found so far=24folders found=5
    time elapsed 10 and a half hours
    set time remaining 21 hours 35 min

    all that keeping in mind there is one folder that did not disappear

    So far, from what i can tell it's not looking to great so far with 00 :dunno:


    hi audipig,

    yes i am using macdrive.
    i have to leave for an hour or so but when i get back I will read up on what happened to you with hiren and see if it applies. then i can read the rest of the messages from the members and see what i can do next.




     
  15. sigge

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    Hi again Musicvanss

    Your external drive is most likely configured as an NTFS USB Mass Storage Device, no use then to take it out of the enclosure and putting it inside a Mac., they don’t read NTFS internally do they? External drives have circuitboards inside to make them compatible with various devices that can read Mass Storage info. So don’t waste time by dismantling the external enclosure (yet). You only do that when the enclosure is totally dead, and in your case it’s not failed since your Mac can find the device externally on the USB-port, right? As I understand it you run Win7 64 bit in Bootcamp on Mac, right?

    Maybe it’s some mixup in bootsector-info, and a fresh partitioning might restore the disc to new. Perhaps the makers of the disc have their own software for best reset, like WD have their disc utilities software, etc. But throw the disc out if you’re the least bit suspicious.

    But first you have to rescue your files, and if O&O or Discwarrior fails I suggest again you get ”Parted Magic” version 2013-11-11 (it’s there on PB for example), it’s about 400 Meg size. You burn this to a CD with a suitable ISO-burning software.

    Now you have a bootable rescue-disc that runs on any PC or Mac (the disc contains its own complete OS (linux) together with the nicest rescue-tools I’ve ever seen (and partitioning and disc-utilities etc).
    You boot from the CD , any PC or Intelbased Mac is fine..
    If your machine doesn’t boot from the CD-drive, just google how to change the boot-order at startup.

    When Parted Magic is running, it’s like any computer GUI with a file explorer and so on. And the good thing is that the developers have done all the choises that the other rescuecompanies force you to decide yourself, meaning you don’t have to learn alot of disc details before up and running.
    Parted Magic starts as a 32 bit OS (think they have it in 64 bit aswell, but 32 bit is ok on any PC or Mac), and it will find every modern device you can think of, plus get online and whatever, it’s complete. Even more so than the MS preinstall enviroment that Hirens and many other rescuesystems rely on.

    I cannot tell you how neat I find it, compared with the other stuff. Most of the other rescue-software is dated and convoluted compared with this streamlined and updated program.
    It will find multiple external mass storage devices, meaning it’s so easy to copy rescued files from your failed disc to a good disc. Many other rescue-programs will only let you copy from an external disc to an internal disc, meaning you have to have a large internal disc installed.

    When you’ve rescued and saved your files to a good disc, I really think you should partition the old disc and run all checks Partition Magic has. If there’s any indication of questionable behaviour – just scrap that old disc.
    .
    Sorry if I come over as a total jerk who wants to write you on the nose. That’s not my intentions. The failed disc I had wasn’t even recognized as a disc by most rescueprograms, but Parted Magic didn’t even hesitate. (yes I know i sound like a PR guy, but I’m still in awe over that program).

    Regards!
     

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  16. rickbarratt

    rickbarratt Producer

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    everyone i know says diskwarriror is the way to go.
     
  17. sigge

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    I go on and on :)

    Win7 (and possible your OSX and Bootcamp too) is older than your external disc (that use recent mass storage instructions), and that has most likely messed up your file system on the disc.
    Now there’s little chance of rcovering that mess with an old O&O or Diskwarrior, you have to have a rescue-software that is updated to the latest mass storage specifications.
    That’s exactly what had me almost go nuts before I found a modern and updated software that could find every device inside and outside a modern computer.
    Good luck man!
    sigge
     
  18. Musicvanss

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    just wanted to thank all of you who took a moment to respond and try and help me. this is a great community and I look forward to being a part of it. I had the most luck with diskwarrior. 00 did nothing for me but disk warrior saved some of my files/folders. (i'd say about 50%) so anyone who has a drive fail similar to mine i would suggest strongly using disk warrior. One of my problems was i took the drive out of its enclosure and swapped it on different computers to check it out in other os's and win/mac etc. I get the idea that if i had not done that, i would have maybe gotten all the data back.

    So friends, the moral of the story is. if you have a drive fail similar to mine.
    A. Do not remove the drive from the enclosure and do not disconnect it.
    B. be patient if you can, Before you do anything, Tell the good people of audiosex.pro your situation and get some feedback before you move.
    C And please keep in mind that Diskwarrior worked best for me, I was surprised how much was salvaged, and like i said, i think it would have recovered all of my data had i known to do A & B


    :wink: Musicvanss
     
  19. Demon

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    Hey Musicvanss, glad you got some of your stuff back. I agree, removing the drive from the enclosure might have done this.

    Have fun!
     
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