Suno Sucks

Discussion in 'Ai for Music' started by teddi, Sep 27, 2025.

  1. curtified

    curtified Audiosexual

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    The Splice sample detection isnt watermark its a Shazam style non watermark. If you are the first person to uplaod a song to spotify with KSHMR EDM loop then you now have blocked others if the detector can link it to your song. Its not a watermark its more of the first person to the DSP.

    Maybe you can prove me wrong here too by showing me these watermarks.
     
  2. shinyzen

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    ive found proof of a watermark here. I loaded my latest suno gen into MS Paint, and this is what it opened as. Suno has a lot of explaining to do! im pissed!! watermark.jpg
     
  3. omiac

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    Why are you quoting me and then commenting about another members comments? :dunno:

    Listen, I don't have a horse in this race, nor any interest in a long winded conversation about it, as I am not your target demographic. My question to you was very simple and direct, but you have yet to provide the same in answering it, other than to say "its just the way AI music is. all the top end is chopped off. ". This, to me, comes of as deflecting and being deceptive. So I ask again, do Suno generated audio files (free, paid, pro, premium or otherwise), contain any copyright and/or watermark or otherwise Suno proprietary ID'ing whatsoever?

    As I said, my research, which I provided a link to and excerpt from, says yes, Suno does in fact embed this information into files "inaudibly woven into it.. and there is no way of removing it", which has nothing to do with your replied statement quoted above. I am giving you, as a Suno employee actively participating in this and most of the other threads regarding this topic and calling others out about watermarking, the opportunity to provide facts and proof on this topic, so all of our members are crystal clear about it once and for all and we can finally move on to the next topic.

    Can you do this or are we going to continue dancing around in circles here? :unsure:
     
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  4. Riddim Machine

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    Yep, it's not some secret embbed code or something like that. You can tag your sound with audio as a part of the sound design as well.
     
  5. curtified

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    Haha.
    that joke was “deep”
     
  6. curtified

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    I was responding to you with the quote.

    And the person that is claming the watermarking in this thread is @Rolfy isnt that how it works?

    I responded about it on the thread previously, and my comment was deleted by a mod because i linked to a previous post. No there isnt a watermark in the audio that cant be destroyed what so ever.

    Screenshot 2025-10-06 at 8.57.26 PM.png

    There are positives to watermarking. It would be a good solution for tracking of distribution of royalties for all music AI or not through a form of steganography.
     
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  7. marshall stack 666

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    You may be right in certain cases, but WAAYYYYY better ?? So youve tried all karaoke + Ensemble model combinations to draw your conclusion ? The complexity of the instrumentation is always a factor in any a.i sepearation output process. You can also De-verb in UVR, Suno does not remove reverb or echo.
     
  8. omiac

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    I see. Again deflecting and avoiding answering the question with a straight answer. These types of tactics are deceptive and shady and at this point, you as an employee and rep constantly hyping, and Suno as a company, have lost all credibility here, as far as I am concerned. Good luck with that.

    As for the merging posts screenshot and quoting/replying to others, I suggest you take a minute to read our forum rules about this and utilize multi-quotes as a solution. :winker:
     
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  9. DoubleTake

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    Suno is very good for just getting stoned and watching game shows all afternoon.
     
  10. curtified

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    How is my answer not good enough? I said there is no watermark.

    My B on the quote.. Def have done it a few times in the past on here for the past decade. Ill fall back
     
  11. zadiac

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    Yes, I have. And yes, Suno does not remove reverb. That is not its function. I still use UVR to do the de-reverb of my vocal stem once extracted in Suno. Sometimes I use iZotope RX11. I jump between the two, depending on which one gives me the best result for a certain vocal stem.
     
  12. omiac

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    Thanks for the rating, I am glad to see you're amused by my inquiry, which from your sidestepping activities in this thread alone, is clearly a sensitive subject for you. But the fact is, once again, you're equivocating answers and refusing to address my question with a straight answer. This is an answer in and of itself and all I needed to know. Not all of us are as dumb as you may think we is. :winker:

    Look, my only concern in all this is for our forum members being mislead by half-truths and other deceptive sales practices. Buyers beware! It's perfectly fine if you don't want to answer the question with a straight answer, that is your choice, we're moving beyond that now... but it certainly is not fine, as a Suno employee and sales rep constantly peddling your product here, to act as if you have, implying you've been nothing but forthcoming. Then to turn around and ridicule, project and call others out on it? Yeah, no.

    Indeed, falling back is probably a good idea at this point.
    :bow:
     
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  13. Riddim Machine

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    Yeah. Saying on the perspective of a person that is putting money on this tech i brought a lot of frustations as a user. I'm not criticizing it just for the sake, well, because if wanted to do so i wouldn't be a customer at the first place. There are things i like to a point of willing to pay for the experience. But several points brought on this same thread of things that makes the service looks somehow flawed. Especially when it comes to real implementations for real musicians not some for random kiddo prompting sounds.
     
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    YouTube says the rights are fine, which makes me think there’s no watermark. If I’m wrong, please correct me, but somehow it detects that the video is AI-generated and pushes it to the bottom, meaning it doesn’t recommend it, even if you’re subscribed with notifications on, which is probably the platform’s way of protecting itself from being flooded with this type of content. :dunno:
     
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    Gotta said @curtified , my red flag also went off...
     
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    YouTube is serious: no more money for AI junk and fake videos starting July 15

    Patience has apparently run out: YouTube is announcing new measures to combat a growing flood of low-quality and AI-generated videos. As reported by several media outlets, the platform is updating its guidelines for the YouTube Partner Program (YPP) effective July 15, 2025. Anyone who wants to earn money with videos in the future will have to prove that their content is authentic and not simply clicked together by automated means.

    In a corresponding help document, YouTube explains that these requirements aren't new. However, how the company defines "inauthentic" content in the future is new. The goal is to make it easier to identify repetitive, mass-produced content and exclude it from monetization. A particular focus is on videos created with the help of generative AI, such as automated voiceovers, copied clips, or completely synthetic content.

    YouTube is turning off the funding for AI and mass content: Starting July 15, inauthentic videos will be removed from the partner program.
    https://www-absatzwirtschaft-de.tra...=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp#
     
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  17. Xupito

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    A lot of things have happened since this info. The situation is REALLY bad right now. I've had to install a "shorts-blocker" extension. I shit you not guys.
    But this a topic for another thread (pls somebody create it, I'm a lazy-ass)

    Edited: most (although far from all) AI-garbage vids are shorts, that's why the shorts-blocker extension is the "least bad" way to get rid of them. Of course there's a lot of non-AI shorts, some of them I like
     
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  18. saccamano

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    Jeez. NO need to get triggered or anything.. It's my opinion of the stupid junk. Doesn't have to be yours (obviously) and I never said so. Just chill.
     
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